--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 6, 2007, at 7:37 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > > > > > Just for the record, Henry Louie was Joni's manager (or was > it > > > > > recording engineer, Turq?). Henry and his wife Nadine were > > > > > close to MMY in the early days. I once heard a story that > > > > > some starry-eyed fan got close enough to Joni (who learned > TM > > > > > at some point) to say "Jai Guru Dev" and that Joni's > response > > > > > was "Fuck you." > > > > > > > > Not surprising since one of her friends, Alan Ginsberg had > > > > discovered and exposed the Maharishi's phoniness many years ago > > > > (and IIRC correctly, Ginsberg published it in a newspaper). > > > > > > > I heard Alan Ginsberg say just the opposite, that Maharishi is > > > supremely enlightened and nothing phony about him at all, that > the > > > phoniness others see in Maharishi is just a reflection of their > own > > > phoniness. Oh wait, you cite your references first...:-) > > > > No problem: > > > > http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dg6n6657_59c8ftjw > > > > As you'll see, he sure discovered and exposed > > MMY's phoniness, all right. > > > > <guffaw> > > > Now that I've read Alan Ginsberg's breathless expose of Maharishi's > phoniness, I'll come clean: Vaj and I both made up what we said out > of thin air, and I do mean thin... Interesting that Vaj takes the > word of someone who before trying Maharishi's meditation just > writes it off. Synergy? Nah.:-)
Ginsberg *didn't* write it off, though. He didn't care for the hype surrounding MMY, and he didn't think much of MMY's political opinions, but he said the idea of everybody meditating makes sense, but that he couldn't judge the method because he hadn't tried it. I'm quite sure Vaj *did* see the article. He just chose to lie about it. You know, speaking of exposing phonies.
