--- In [email protected], "BillyG." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "Ron" <sidha7001@> wrote:
> >
> > Om Namo Narayan 
> > 
> > Sahaja means effortless and continuous - 
> > (not simply the result of being in sitting meditation)
> > This is rather a continous state of Consciousness versus 
> > an experience that comes and goes. 
> > 
> > Sarvikalpa - is still having an identity but it is merged 
> > in Oneness. Being One 
> > 
> > Nirvikalpa - is no me remaining - Simply IS. One does 
> > not percieve any story any longer it is over. There is only 
> > Pure Awareness without any attributes layered over. 
> > IN Nirvikalpa Sahaja there are no longer rising thoughts 
> > and oneness has dissolved into 0 point balance. 
> > 
> > Maha Shanti
> 
> Sri Ramakrishna describes this distinction very well: "Savikalpa
> Samadhi was compared by Sri Ramakrishna to a cotton doll which when
> put in water gets saturated with it, and Nirvikalpa Samadhi to a 
doll
> of salt which when immersed in water dissolves and loses itself in 
it.
> Nirvikalpa is the higher..."
> 


> It reminds me of the saying by Christ Jesus that:  "Whoever finds 
his
> life (ego) will lose it (Cosmic Awareness), and whoever loses his 
life
> (litte ego) for my sake will find it (Cosmic Consciousness).
> 
> You added the new-age stuff in parentheses.  There's no evidence 
that Jesus promoted nondual Realization. (but no evidence that he 
didn't.)  The Bible doesn't give us clear indications as to what 
Jesus really said, or meant to say.
> 
> >
>


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