--- In [email protected], "shanti2218411" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --I believe that MMY did an excellent job trying to explain
> enlightenment and how it developed to westerners who for the most 
part
> had no idea what enlightenment was.However,in doing this he used
> modern terms eg stress in ways which do not exactly conform to what
> they actually mean.I think that meditation(not just TM)does produce
> changes in the body/central nervous system(CNS).These changes can
> become permanent and undoubtedly are related to changes in the
> expereince of conciousness eg witnessing.As far what can be
> expereinced in meditation being purely the result of "unstressing" I
> think that is highly debatable.With respect to my expereince of
> of shakti/kundalini during my initiation I would charaterize that as
> an awakening of a force that had been latent in my body.This force 
is
> very much active all the time in my body now.I would agree that SOME
> of the effects that this force causes could be described using the
> term "unstressing".Kevin
> 

And perhaps your desire to see it as something more is holding you 
back because you are clinging to relative things while thinking they 
are non-relative.




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