--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" > <mainstream20016@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" > > > <mainstream20016@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" > > > > > <mainstream20016@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <no_reply@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The stress-free schools link to the California TM school > has been > > > > > > > disabled: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.stressfreeschools.org/video/california_school.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is another link which talks about TM in schools, but > all > > > > > > > private/charter, so it's clear that the TMO is trying to keep > > > the SF > > > > > > > public middle school's TM program hush-hush, as Chris, the > Lynch > > > > > > > foundation spokesman clearly states above: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.stressfreeschools.org/video/stressfreeschools.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All directly involved are tip-toeing through the elephants > to avoid > > > > > stirring up third-party > > > > > > opposition to public recognition of TM's good effect in this > public > > > > > school.... > > > > > > but that doesn't address the future prospects of teaching TM > > > > > broadly, which will require a > > > > > > secular organization teaching TM as a secular technique, > which will > > > > > happen soon, as a > > > > > > response of the need of the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How are they going to teach and maintain TM as a "secular > technique" > > > > > while using the Puja to initiate? Surely they're not going to > do away > > > > > with the Puja, eh? > > > > > > > > > > > > > from #151229: > > > > 'Like a surgeon who scrubs for surgery outside of the surgical > > > suite, away from the > > > > patient, the TM teacher can prepare for teaching TM by performing > > > the puja privately, in > > > > an adjoining room.' > > > > > > Two questions: > > > > > > 1) Do the would-be meditaters bring fruit flowers and handkerchief? > > > [Please explain] > > > > > > 2) Is all of this by *direct* instructions from Maharishi? > > > > > > > > > Maharishi has been flexible with aspects of the puja, including not > requirng the student to > > observe the teacher's performance of the puja. Maharishi might > allow the teacher to > > provide the fruit, flowers, and handkerchief, to further reassure > the student. > > > > The TM technique's current irrelevance is due to the now > overtly-religious TMO. The SIMS > > period through 1975 saw TM taught as a secular technique, and > incredibly wide > > acceptance. Since the Sidhi program instruction in 1976, the TMO > has not been able to > > present itself as a non-religious organization. Not coincidently > TM has since become > > irrelevant. A return to secular TM instruction made available from > a new, separate secular > > teaching organization will allow its wide acceptance - the current > affiliation with the > > overtly-religious TMO will not. >
> > Having now read most of your posts in this thread, I get the > impression that this current effort to establish a 'secular' TMO is > mainly an idea you have concocted and are promoting and that it didn't > come from Maharishi. > Maharishi intends to make TM available to all persons. He made tremendous progress when TM was taught as a secular technique. The overtly-religious Sidhi program then became the focus of the TM movement, followed by numberous overtly-religious programs of the TMO. As such, Maharishi's intention to make TM available to all persons will not be achieved. > I also get the impression that you wouldn't hesitate to proceed to > accomplish a 'secular' organization without his direct approval. > from #151346: ..." It would be wise for the TMO to license a separate organization to teach TM in the manner taught prior to the Siddhis program, an organization that values the secular aspects of TM." The establishment of a firmly secular organization to teach TM widely has many advantages for the current TMO, the main one being that TM will again have a chance to be learned by all. > In my eyes it's bad enough that the key substance of the initiation, > the Puja, its importance and its implications, is being relegated to > darkness, and that the would-be meditaters are totally excluded from > it. In my view, your proposition is not only dangerously contra to > maintaining the purity of the teaching, but flat out dishonest. > Current TM instruction does not require the student to observe the puja. > I also find it appalling that a TM teacher would resort to having to > hide truths about TM from the general public. > A religion has been constructed around TM, and is keepingTM from being widely accepted. In essence, the process of shrouding TM with religiousity relegates TM to obscurity, the greatest offense.
