Well, I kind of agree. Though it's not meant to be a blanket statement. There is real wisdom and enlightenment in Ff---but it's also a very mixed bag. One of the most "enlightened" groups I belong to is an international group of mathematicians/scientists. a
lurkernomore20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bhairitu: Many of the "mundane" (non yoga related) groups I'm on behave more enlightened, balanced and sane than people here. I'm sure others have found this true too. Doesn't speak well for TM does it? Lurk: Big judgement. I think it does speak well for this group. Ever been to a quiet party? It's pretty boring. I'd rather have a active group dynamic that DOES require a little imposed discipline - if thats what it takes to keep things from degrading into pettiness. Bhairitu: Supposedly with TM that discipline is supposed to come from within. So what you are saying is it doesn't. Lurk: Bhairitu, let me tell you a secret I have learned, that has allowed me to be a little successful in my chosen field of sales. People like to talk. People LOVE to talk, espcially about themselves, especially about their opinions. And if you are willing to listen, you will find ourself making a friend. So, no, I don't think TM will instill enough self discipline to overcome this tendency. And I don't view it as a failure of TM. I view it as a positive thing that people here have opinions, and POVs that they want to express. Just remember one thing. God, (or whoever, or whatever), gave you two ears and one mouth for a reason. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com