new.morning wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> He took it away from himself when he declared that TM was NOT
>> effortless....it is "easy" but then so are many, many other
>> meditation methods.
>>
>> Any real yogi familiar with Patanjali will be well aware that as long
>> as there are supports (alambanas) there will always be some effort.
>>
>> Effortless meditation or non-meditation can only occur without
>> supports or props like mantras, etc.
>>
>>
>
> How can there be effort in even mantra meditation. The mantra is
> Brahman, the thoughts are Brahman, the process of meditation is
> Brahman, transcendence is Brahman. Where pray tell, can there be
> effort in Brahman??!! but the mind can never comprhend this. It comes
> from Perfect Knowingness. And Perfect Nothingness. Ha HA Ha HA HA HA
> :) :) :) :) :) :) :). Oh shame, pity an mercy on your little mind. May
> Brahman eat that up for breakfast. Yum!
Mantras are a vehicle. They are particular sounds found down through
the centuries to be conducive to meditation. That's why though Benson
thought one could meditate on any old word he didn't pick up much
support in other Indian paths of meditation as they already knew that
but only specific mantras were safe to use and other words had already
been shown even though they calmed the mind to produce insanity over time.
