It's Blake, from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell!
--- In [email protected], Angela Mailander
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Can't say I do. Sounds like something Nietzsche would have said. a
>
> feste37 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"Opposition is true Friendship." (I think you'll know who wrote that.)
>
> --- In [email protected], Angela Mailander
> <mailander111@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, feste37. I'll plant it, tend it, and watch it grow.
> > Terminal grouchiness is entirely forgiven. Nothing to forgive,
really.
> >
> > feste37 <feste37@> wrote: Oh,
> Angela, I offer you an olive branch! Humor heals everything. As
> > for my own posts, I plead terminal grouchiness.
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Angela Mailander
> > <mailander111@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I agree that it is odd and I apologize, pleading terminal
senility.
> > >
> > > feste37 <feste37@> wrote: --- In
> > [email protected], Angela Mailander
> > > <mailander111@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I did not say that the experience I was recounting was
> cult-like. I
> > > characterized is as "another experience."
> > >
> > > Yes, you did. You said exactly that. I quote you: "There's
another
> > > experience I have with the campus that seems cult-like to me."
> > >
> > > Odd that you try to deny your own words when they are right
there in
> > > front of you.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > More than one historian has pointed out the "cult-like"
> > > characteristics of German fascism. Here, for example, is a brief
> > > passage from Das Schwarze Reich (The Black Empire, 1997) by E. R.
> > > Carmin: "The whole thing really no longer had anything to do
with
> > > political conventions: they were cult-fests, magical rituals, in
> which
> > > the real character of the religion behind National Socialism
> revealed
> > > itself" (translation mine).
> > > >
> > > > feste37 <feste37@> wrote: I would
> > > call that callous and unfeeling rather than cult-like. But I
> > > > do want to comment that "cult-like" is a more accurate
> > description of
> > > > some aspects of campus life and thought than fascist or
Nazi, two
> > > > terms you have frequently used up to now, which seem wildly
> > > > inappropriate to me.
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], Angela Mailander
> > > > <mailander111@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Rick. There's another experience I have with the
> campus
> > > > that seems cult-like to me. When I returned from China, I
> lived on
> > > > campus for a time, renting a room in Utopia Park. My
friend (and
> > > > landlady) and I learned that a woman in her late fifties
who had
> > > > worked for decades as a secretary to a high movement official
> > had lost
> > > > her job (no fault of her own) and was homeless, literally
> > sleeping in
> > > > the woods. My friend and I looked at each other and we both
> said,
> > > > "That is really wrong." And although we were already crowded
> (three
> > > > in that 2-bedroom trailer), we invited this woman to stay
> with us.
> > > > >
> > > > > When the administration somehow learned of this, they told
> us that
> > > > we could not do this, and if we continued, my friend would be
> > evicted
> > > > from her home. There were many empty trailers at the time,
> and it
> > > > seems that, rather than allow them to remain empty, one of
them
> > could
> > > > have been used temporarily to house this former secretary
who had
> > > > worked long hours for almost no pay for many years. a
> > > > >
> > > > > Rick Archer <rick@> wrote:
> > > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Angela
> Mailander
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 9:28 AM
> > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Lecture in
Berlin
> > > > Turns Into Chaos
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree completely with your assessment of Fairfield
> > life.
> > > > It is a vibrant, creative, and spiritual community. My
> comments were
> > > > about the TMO, not life in Fairfield. I have worked on
> campus twice
> > > > in two different capacities. I taught tenth grade boys
for two
> > years.
> > > > The boys were great. Most of them are still good friends
> ten years
> > > > later. But the administration and some (though by no
means all)
> > > > colleagues were---well, cult members. Later, as I said in
> another
> > > > post, I was called as a consultant when the ESL department
> couldn't
> > > > get Chinese grad students in computer science competent in
> English.
> > > > Again, my experience was that the atmosphere was
> repressive---not on
> > > > the part of the people who'd called me in, but the
administrators
> > > > involved acted like cult members. I want to emphasize
again that
> > this
> > > > is not true of many faculty members I have met. But I have
> also met
> > > > many good teachers who left the university b ecause of the
> kind of
> > > > cult-like repression I've
> > > > > observed.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Having been on MIU faculty for a few years (teaching
Desktop
> > > > Publishing) I agree with you, and would add that Bevan, who
> > ultimately
> > > > runs the university, is a major contributor to the cult-like
> > > > atmosphere. He intimidates and fires faculty who get too
> independent
> > > > in their thinking, and either appoints repressive people to
> > > > administrative positions or makes otherwise nice people play
> by his
> > > > rules. There's also the universal principle that control
> freaks tend
> > > > to gravitate to administrative positions and experience
> ego-bloating
> > > > once they get there.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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