Peter,I respect your opinion but that is all that it is,your opinion. We've had this dicussion on this forum before(actually I've lost count).I'm pretty sure I'm very much in the minority(on FFL) but I think that the whole business of making statements re the nature of reality based on subjective states is fundamentally flawed. Consequently statements like"Conciousness has nothing to with a.....body" have no other basis than someone(in this case you)making this assertion.Like "God is Love" what does that really mean?It's anyones guess.Frankly I think one of the problems with "enlightenment"is for most people who become "enlightened" there is an apparently irrestible urge to make philosphical statments based on their"enlightenment".But the more people assert that they have the (ultimate)truth the surer I feel that they don't.One result of this perspective is the sense that the best approach to the truth is to ask questions and when you do make assertions always be ready to question your assertions no matter how self evident or cosmic they may seem.Its because of the latter that term Vedic Science is an oxymoron.For proof of the latter think of the last time you remember someone who is a practioner of Jyotish asking "is it really true that the stars influence peoples lives".Of course that hasn't happened and jyotish hasn't really changed for a very long time although there are pretty good reasons to believe that it has very little validity."Enlightenment"may have a profound psychological value for the "one" who is enlightened but I think that is as far as it goes.Kevin
In [email protected], Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- shanti2218411 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > And therein lies the problem. WHO is > > confounded with > > > > > WHAT. WHAT is always an object of perception, > > while > > > > > WHO is pure consciousness. > > > > Without the WHAT aka body ,form there can be no > > perception nor any > > perceiver. > > Consciousness has nothing to do with a perceiver, > perception or the perceived.....or a body! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
