--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Jun 3, 2005, at 1:01 AM, Rick wrote:
> 
> >> I would think it depends on the person. There could be some rare
> > people
> >> who could get enlightened in just a couple. There could even be
> > some
> >> people who just need to do a minimum in this lifetime and *bam*,
> >> they're there.
> >>
> >
> >
> >> In general, the more "skillful" the technique, the faster the
> > result.
> >
> > There's a concept clearly born of the intellect.
> >
> > Rick Carlstrom
> >
> 
> Many enlightened beings discuss this based on their experience. 
It's my 
> experience as well. The more skillful the technique, the faster 
the 
> results. There are very few methods which can do this in one 
lifetime 
> but there is something for everyone.

I'm just a little surprised that you said this. It tends to 
perpetuate this idea that self realization is hard and requires 
mastering skillful techniques. Creating a map of creation through 
reverse engineering and then trying to use that as a guide to reach 
the source of that creation is a difficult process. It may work up 
to a point, but IMO skillfull techniques eventually fall short of 
innocent devotion. It's just hard to believe that realization of 
one's very own true nature should be a complicated process. You 
might not be saying this exactly but most skills take a lot of work 
to acquire and in the realm of spirit I associate work with the 
intellect.

Rick Carlstrom





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