> > So, we are agreed that the U.S. is in a war. > > Brian Horsfield wrote: > You miss the point. Wars against non nation state enemies > are pretty much unwinnable since there is no definable > enemy. You have to essentially kill everybody to truly > declare "victory". > Not everybody, Brian, just the terrorists.
> The US has LOST every war since WWII. > The U.S. has NEVER lost a single war. Rep. John Murtha Democrat from Pennsylvania, one the top war critics, stunned fellow Democrats late last week with his statement that "the surge is working," even though he added that political reconciliation has been lagging. Murtha's view was backed by Rep. Norm Dicks Democrat from Washington, who also said the surge worked after he returned from Iraq. Read more: 'Reid pushes back on Iraq optimism' Politico, December 03, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/3arte2 > Paul voted against the war in Iraq and against the > Patriot Act showing true courage and leadership to > follow the Constition rather the fear mongering > promoters of war. > The Patriot Act passed the Senate with 98 votes in October 2001 with a single NAY: http://www.lifeandliberty.gov/subs/p_congress.htm
