I second Curtis, Off. I'm glad you're back and you
ain't goin' postal!! Merry Christmas

--- curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Glad you are back brother.  Felis Navidad man.
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected],
> off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for that apology. I honestly did not know
> that. 
> > I really thought you were using an attack. I have
> never heard that 
> > term before. I took some philosophy courses, and I
> even taught logic 
> > as part of geometry classes to high school kids
> for a while, and I 
> > never came across anything like that.
> > 
> > So thanks for the apology, shows a manliness that
> some others lack 
> > here (Turq and Shemp still think I knew what it
> meant. I didn't) it 
> > is an honest cultural difference. I honestly have
> not heard it 
> > before, and I was AMAZED Rick would not ban
> someone for 
> > that...Lol..my  bad. 
> > I don't know if they use it in Britain, and if I
> have heard it over 
> > here I must have just thought the guy is nuts and
> being really rude.
> > 
> > Lol...what a palavor, as we say in Sotland.
> > 
> > No need to self-ban yourself, I will ask next time
> I see something 
> > wierd ( it is not a nice term though. It is sexist
> and derogatory to 
> > women, but then, this is America.)
> > 
> > OffWorld
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], new.morning
> <no_reply@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Off, 
> > > 
> > > I am sorry we had a communications gap. I did
> not know that you did
> > > not know that "Are You Still Beating Your Wife?"
>  is an common 
> > phrase
> > > in America. 
> > > 
> > > It has nothing to do with wives or beating them.
> It is an American
> > > idiom. An Idiom being 
> > > "an expression, that is a term or phrase whose
> meaning cannot be
> > > deduced from the literal definitions and the
> arrangement of its 
> > parts,
> > > but refers instead to a figurative meaning that
> is known only 
> > through
> > > common use. Supposedly, in linguistics, idioms
> are widely assumed to
> > > be figures of speech"
> > > 
> > > Read a few of the links on this google search.
> > > http://www.google.com/search?
> > q=Are+you+still+beating+your+wife&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-
> >
>
8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
> > > 
> > > "Are You Still Beating Your Wife?"  is a logical
> fallacy. More
> > > specifically, it is a "trick question". One
> cannot answer it without
> > > implicitly admitting to something they did not
> do. Thats why it has
> > > become a standard retort when someone poses a
> logical fallacy to 
> > them,
> > > often in the form of a question or challenge.
> The fallacy is the
> > > built-in presumption that the addressee did
> something that they did
> > > not do.  Denial of the accusation only
> reinforces the false premise 
> > in
> > > the original question.
> > > 
> > > You challenged a number of us to a debate. And
> scoffed that we would
> > > not accept the challenge.  In this context,
> either accepting the
> > > challenge or refusing it (could) implies that
> the underlying premise
> > > of your challenge was true.  Since I in no way
> believe "modern
> > > scientific process is wrong, and that [my]
> opinion is more important
> > > than science.", its quite a slippery slope for
> one to answer a
> > > challenge with such false premises. 
> > > 
> > > A common way to respond to such logical fallacy
> structures is the
> > > question at hand: "Are You Still Beating Your
> Wife?". It has nothing
> > > to do with anyones wife, or beatings. My comment
> certainly had 
> > nothing
> > > to do with wife -- I had no idea that you had a
> wife. And I have had
> > > no idea of who you are. To me, Off is just a
> name of a poster. 
> > > 
> > > I am sorry for the misunderstanding. If I was
> aware that you did not
> > > have any knowledge of this common American
> idiom, I never would have
> > > used it. There was no intent to insult your wife
> or your relations
> > > with her. Since that was your understanding of
> my comment, I am 
> > sorry
> > > for making the statement.
> > > 
> > > new.morning
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected],
> new.morning <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected],
> off_world_beings <no_reply@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected],
> new.morning <no_reply@> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In [email protected],
> off_world_beings 
> > <no_reply@>
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Therefore, the challenge is for you
> anti-science fundies to 
> > come 
> > > > > on 
> > > > > > > YouTube and debate me in a vlog. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Yes folks, I am willing to put my face
> in a video defending 
> > > > > science.
> > > > > > > However, the fundies here will find
> pathetic excuses to not 
> > take 
> > > > > me 
> > > > > > > up on that. The reason is that they are
> afraid to be seen 
> > going 
> > > > > > > around saying that the modern scientific
> process is wrong, 
> > and 
> > > > > that 
> > > > > > > their opinion is more important than
> science.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Well first, you need to clarify to the
> world if you are still 
> > > > > beating
> > > > > > your wife.>>
> > > > > 
> > > > > Why are you saying such disgusting things? 
> > > > > Does anyone know this guys real name please.
> > > > > 
> > > > > No really, does anyone know his real name?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Rick I want this guy banned for a month for
> saying that lie. I 
> > won't 
> > > > > accept anything less. I will take this to
> the courts if this 
> > guy is 
> > > > > not banned for a month. I'm serious.
> > > > > 
> > > > > What is his real name anyone?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am taking this to court Rick if he is not
> banned for a month 
> > for 
> > > > > this.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Tom Barlow
> 
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