Beautiful speech by Krishnamurti. Thanks for posting it. a

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From: dhamiltony2k5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2008 5:31:36 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Practice Since Blake









  


    
            --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, "dhamiltony2k5" 

<dhamiltony2k5@ ...> wrote:

>

> Spiritual Practice Since Blake:

> A lot of spiritual practice has gone on since Blake  & it has 

> continued or ended in various ways not absolutely stale, 

> authoritarian and rigid.  There has been a progression which is in 

> the American experience with it.



> According to William Blake, movements always end like this--stale, 

authoritarian, rigid.



Differently, an exact opposite of this kind of stale doctrinal fate 

like of the TMmovement could be:      



-J.Krishnamurti, 1929 Speech Dissolving his organization, post 7513

http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/FairfieldL ife/message/ 7513



> 

> 

> For example, Yogananda's group SRF now seems to have survived the 

> death of their guru.  They do have enduring active spiritual 

practice 

> communities facilitating that work.  Again last summer they 

gathered 

> for an annual week `convocation' near LA for about 10 days of long 

> group meditations with about 4000 people.  In their communities 

they 

> do regular long powerful group meditations as part of their ongoing 

> spiritual practice.  

> 

> By a same kind of coin as with TM, it could be as easy to say that 

so 

> much of the `positivity' of late that the TMorg points to as 

evidence 

> is actually due to the SRF 4000 meditators in practice together 

last 

> summer.  The powerful lasting influence of a larger n=squared 

number 

> by contrast.   After all, exponentially 4000 powerful SRFmeditators 

> sitting in practice is a lot more strong than 1700 sleeping TM-

sidhas 

> in recline in group.   Sit with the shakti of a SRF group 

meditation 

> if you have not, to judge it.  They got shakti that is alive in a 

way 

> that by contrast the TMmovement group meditations are only a 

forlorn 

> disheartened hope over what could have been with their movement. 

> -Doug in FF

> 

> 

> --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Angela Mailander 

> <mailander111@ > wrote:

> >

> > According to William Blake, movements always end like this--

stale, 

> authoritarian, rigid.  They begin with fiery spirit and end in 

> ashes.  

> 

> >He describes the process in some detail and at great depth in 

> >his "Book of Urizen," which I read when I first got my children 

> >involved with TM, and I thought, hmm, here's a test case, and it 

has 

> been amazing to see how it went down exactly like the man said it 

> would.  

> 

> >So, perhaps, there is no need to speak of failure.  Instead, we 

can 

> realize that this is the natural process for any movement.  This 

does 

> not mean that there is anything wrong with the technique.  

> > 

> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Maharishi Effect" Quantum-Failure 

> Essay

> > 

>  





    
  

    
    




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