Everyone talks about reincarnation but never defines it scientifically.

There has to be "some THING" that is transferred, but physics and
biology give us no clue as to the "mechanics" of such a "switching of
bodies" -- mechanics as seen by some tool/concept of science.

We hear: "Oh, that's the astral body leaving the body, and it's too
subtle for any machine made by man to sense."  Something like that.

Eh, yeah, riiiiight. 

There is only one sentience behind all the illusions -- that's Hindu
dogma.  If believed, then even rocks have the same spirit as you or me
or God, and thus, there's no need to travel to another body that is
ALREADY ensouled by THE ONE.

It's about omnipresence and being made in the image of God, see?

If it is the personal history of one's life that is somehow bundled up
 as, what?, memories? and then transferred, again, where is the
science to explain this.  Consider that the many who claim to remember
their past lives are not on record being able to prove it by knowing
things one could not know otherwise -- to a scientist.  

Yes, there are stories, but no scientist has done a study of these
reports with enough merit to get other scientists to look at the
issue. Maybe it is provable, but by now, given how many thousands who
do believe they are remembering past lifetimes, there should have been
a definitive experiment involving the gathering these folks, taking
notes, and then comparing the notes with real world facts.  

Being able to speak an ancient language perfectly without having had
any training would be a most excellent proof, but where are such
examples that have been validated by a scientist?

Zip.

I KNOW that everything is in the now, and if there is any past then it
is a feature of the now -- wholly formed instant by moment by titch of
time.  To be extreme in this POV, I believe that, say, the dinosaurs'
bones we find are merely artifacts of the dream -- as real as anything
else in the dream, but not scientific proof of having a "history," and
hence, anything that can be imagined can become reality, but
bones-alone do not a history make.  

In a dream tonight, you may think you're Moses leading his people and
that this Moses dream character "has" memories of fleeing Pharaoh,
etc....yet no such history in the real waking life world can be
validated -- nothing in the Bible for instance would mention that
Moses always wore a flower in his hair like "you" did in your dreaming
of being him, nor, while in the dream, will the Moses dream character
speak in ancient Hebrew unless the dreamer in waking life knows that
language.  The world of this dreamstate Moses is entirely concocted
instantly by the amazing powers of the human brain.  Just so the
waking state's realities.

Just so dino bones.  Just so you.  Just so me.

And just so God.  Maya = dreamstate = no substance.  Period.

There is no reincarnation -- at best there is "another part of the
dream" that is very similar to "memories" that are part of the dream
NOW.  Illusion = delusion.  

It is no wonder that spirituality's goals are to have one led to want
to escape this dreamstate -- one wants truth, not gold or happiness or
power or esteem or whatever.  After all, in our nightly dreams we
often do have such things/emotions/abilities/fame in our roles as
kings, perfect lovers, flying yogis, or "the most important person in
this room."  But when we awaken, we are so clear about the nature of
the dreamstate that nothing experienced during it has any power over
us once the truth about "I'm a king" becomes known in the waking life.
Having awoken from a dream of being a king, no one regrets awakening
from that delusion -- for even a bite from a apple is worth more to us
NOW than any memory of a dream character's wealth.  Heck, even a biter
of cold, tough, chewy, cardboardy pizza in the morning will do.

Either you get enlightened in this lifetime, or "lower case 'you'" are
not going to be enlightened ever -- meanwhile, upper case YOU is
always the only soul of entirety.  This is not to say that God hasn't
made a completely perfect clone of you in a bizzillion other dreams,
but those "folks-o-you" are merely like the other coats that stay on
the rack when you select one to buy.  The other coats might be
identical to the one you buy, but they are not your coats, right?  

Only your coat is your coat.

Only this life is your life.  Live it fully -- only not like Turq.

Edg


--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Jan 7, 2008, at 10:22 AM, Angela Mailander wrote:
> 
> > Atheists come in all stripes.  Reincarnation could be natural law,  
> > having nothing to do with whether or not there is a God.
> 
> Unless god recycles.
>


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