Rick - what was it about MMY that was so SPECIAL for YOU? And how did you handle the cognitive dissonance regarding his non-celibacy?
--- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for posting this, Guy. It was a good reminder for me of how powerful > Maharishi really is, though I haven't really forgotten. Totally awesome > dude, to use modern vernacular. He helped me a lot in this way too, although > my experiences weren't as dramatic as yours. My problem is (if it's a > problem), that having heard and dismissed rumors of Maharishi's own > sexuality for most of my 37 year meditating career, I finally became exposed > to enough credible evidence that I believed them. You're still welcome to > disbelieve them, of course, and I fully expect that you see me as deluded, > but bear with me for a minute. > > First, let me say again that I spent years in Maharishi's close proximity, > so I know what an extraordinary being he is. Assume, for a moment, that the > rumors are true. How would you come to terms with them? You know how > powerful and highly evolved Maharishi is. You know that the bliss of the > Self is greater than the bliss of sex. So what would have motivated him? The > bliss of the Self is greater than the bliss of food too, yet Maharishi > enjoys food. In http://members.fortunecity.com/whitesessions/rishikesh.htm > he said to John Lennon that that the truth was like an iceberg with only ten > percent showing. So if he really did this, as so many women and personal > secretaries said he did, perhaps he didn't do it for the reasons you or I > would have. There are many stories in the Vedas of great sages like > Vasishtha having sex, even though many of them lived primarily recluse > lives. I suppose there were cosmic reasons for that. In Vashishta's case, > Shukadeva had to be born. As far as we know, Maharishi doesn't have any > offspring. But maybe he needed that relative experience to be more effective > in the world? Maybe his nature, like that of most people, is not to be a > lifelong bramachari, yet his fame prevented him from making a lifestyle > switch. Maybe it just didn't matter at his stage of evolution? Maybe he was > a fallen yogi? I just don't know, but it still puzzles me. Maybe I'll be > convinced at some point that all this didn't take place. Maybe the women who > said it did will retract their stories, but it looks more likely that > they'll publish books after he dies, at least one or two of them. And if > books are published, others may come forward. So anyway, call me an idiot > doomed to be reborn as a dog if it makes you feel good, but I've been > sincerely perplexed over this issue for several years now, so any light > anyone can shed on it will be appreciated. > > > on 6/4/05 12:28 PM, guybanner2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In May, 1975 I attended an ATR in France. MMY was giving advanced > > techniques. I was not ready for one of the 2 to 7, but I > > thought, "who said it had to be 2 to 7." So I decided to write in my > > own request. I had a high sex drive and it was interfering with my > > desire to be totally one-pointed in my spiritual practice. So, I > > decided to write on my advanced technique application > > form "Celibacy." I got at the end of the line and after an hour wait > > entered the initiation room where there were rows of tables with > > puja sets set up. We each did our own puja, then lined up to come > > before MMY to get our technique. > > > > I came about three feet before MMY with some apprehension about his > > response. He looked at the form and then at me, and said "Good." > > Then asked me "How long have you abstained?" > > I replied, "Two years." Then, firmly, "But I need help." > > MMY nodded, then closed his eyes, and went really deep into > > meditation. He surfaced about ten seconds later, and said, "It is > > good." Then MMY looked at me solidy. > > Then suddenly I felt a solid hard bolt of energy come from MMY and > > hit me between my eyes which stunned me by the impact. Before I > > could figure it out, a second solid hard bolt of energy again hit > > me between my eyes. > > Then I noticed my seminal fluid rising up to the second chakra > > level. A very sharp pain began; it was like an icepick was slowly > > being pushed into me at the pelvic chakra area. It was very painful > > and lasted about 5 seconds. > > Then the rising fluid seemed to become transmuted into a dense > > vapor. It rose slowly upwards, up the shushumna. It was a very > > pleasurable experience. When it reached the level of my heart > > chakra, it paused and radiated outwards from my chest in all > > direction with a great feeling of splendor. > > Then the radiating ceased and the upward flow of the dense vapor > > continued until it reached the level of my forehead, when again it > > radiated outwards in all directions with great splendor. > > That was my initiation into celibacy. It was done by a mere glance > > from my MASTER. > > He put my physiology through a metamorphosis that to this day has > > not changed. He changed the direction of my energy flow from going > > downwards and outwards into one which is transmuted and flows > > continuously upwards. > > > > Celibacy is a state of consciousness which has a corresponding > > physiologic correlate. It is not a vow of abstinance. Once this > > celibate stage is reached there is no temptation, there is not even > > a consideration, there is no "solitaire" play, nor any "nocturnal > > emission." Celibacy is not a matter of giving up anything. Sex gives > > you up. It is not a matter of denying oneself of anything. The state > > of celibacy is so fulfilling and euphoric that to have sex would be > > to make a sacrifice, such as would be done to have a child. Celibacy > > is a state of constant high which far overshadows any pleasure that > > can be derived from sex. (and this statement I make from once having > > been a sex addict). > > > > So, if MMY can transform my physiology with a glance, don't you > > think that Guru Dev could have done the same for him? > > If I, with my former oversexed drive, can be a perfect celibate, > > don't you think that MMY with his much higher state of consciousness > > can more easily be celibate? > > What high state of consciousness must a Master be in to be able to > > impart such a metamorphosis upon someone with merely a glance? > > > > A wise man once told me that people of high consciousness can > > recognize and understand those of lower consciousness. But those of > > lower consciousness cannot recognize and understand those of higher > > consciousness. > > > > I have been meditating for 37 yrs (TM instructor for nearly as long) > > and I have been on MMY's staff for 5 years. The above is just one > > example of Maharishi's great status. Maharishi is a very great > > MASTER. Anyone who cannot recognize that status and mocks him is a > > fool with the consciousness of a rock. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Rick Archer > SearchSummit > 1108 South B Street > Fairfield, IA 52556 > Phone: 641-472-9336 > Fax: 815-472-5842 > > http://searchsummit.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
