--- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "guybanner2002" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If I, with my former oversexed drive, can be a perfect celibate, > > don't you think that MMY with his much higher state of consciousness > > can more easily be celibate? > > > It seems there may be a distinction i) between being celibate while > channels are opening up and sanskaras are being dissovled, ii) the > state where energy is ever flowing upward, all channels are open, and > all sanskaras are dissolved. > > I have no doubt that MMY was celibate during his internship with SBS, > and probably for some good time after that. Maybe his whole life. > > However, who on this list knows the practices and activities that may > be available to an urdhvareta? (Vaj, and others, may have some stories > from traditions -- and if he can share that would be useful). But > generally such knowledge is not widespread. Consequently, there is no > distinction between practices relevant to life on the path and and > practices relevant to life at the "goal" (aka pinnacle of human > achievement). > > Some old timer once told a first hand story about MMY -- a few > traveling with him, at an airport resaturant, waiting for their plane. > He had a salad in front of him, and began to play with the salt > shaker. He said that GD had forbidden him to eat salt the whole time > he was in the ashram. MMY said he never did eat salt during that > period. "But want to see me eat salt now?" he asked. He proceeded to > unscrew the cap of the shaker and pour the whole bottle of salt on his > salad. pour. And then he ate it. With glee. > > I always saw this as both an amusing yogi story, but also an analogy > that distinguishes the path from the goal for a yogi. Upon hearing it, > I took it as a tale about celibacy -- but that was my take. > > I am not supporting any particular history or POV. I am not making a > case that MMY had sex, did not have sex, is at the "goal", is not at > the goal, etc. My life and worldview is not dependent on any of that. > I am simply asking if it is possible that adepts and yogis who have a > particular level of attainment (not even necessarily "at the goal"): > > i) can engage in sex without the energy flowing downward (or at > least not affecting the upward flow after the act)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > ii) may find something useful, from an energy flow, transformation, > practice POV, from sex? Some practice / benefit that is not available > to downward flowing non-adepts? And the knowledge of such benefical > aspects of sex are generally not known by downward flowers? !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh boy, now you've opened a can of worms. The ultimate excuse, "your just not evolved enough to understand". RAC To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
