--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Feb 7, 2008, at 7:11 PM, authfriend wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." <wgm4u@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > > Maybe he really wasn't a yogi. Is that a possibility here?
> > >
> > > Yes!
> >
> > Be interesting to hear a definition of "yogi"
> > from both of you.
> 
> "CC" type attainment as a minimum--the slightly dualistic  
> turiyatita--"beyond the forth" being what I'd refer to in a TM-
style  
> context.
> 
> But there are non-dual and other yogis as well, so it is good to  
> specify what "style" of yogi you mean when you make some sort of  
> declaration. It's not a monolithic thing. I'm always glad to 
specify  
> if people are sensitive enough to even ask.
> 
> Most aren't.
>
and those that know the truth about this sort of thing aren't 
either. Go home pretender. This notion that you have of their being 
a never ending path of signs and symbols and sciences and levels of 
accomplishment is all designed to mollify the fear of complete 
dissolution, of your own death. Nothing more. 

All who talk in these terms seek to keep those listening in bondage, 
keep them seeking outward for what is each of our spontaneous and 
wholly owned birthright, that of eternal freedom. Some of the 
trappings of these rituals of Maya are beautiful, but that doesn't 
make them liberating. 

There are just two kinds of existence, 1) bound and segregated, and 
2) free and integrated. To make a fundamentalist science as you do 
of all of these gradations and other things keeps the mind busy so 
that it can believe in something other than its own naturally 
available annihilation. Just more fear and idiocy dancing with Maya.

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