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I just found this:

http://tmfree.blogspot.com/2007/06/maharishi-mahesh-yogis-big-lie-
part-1.html

"The mantras are either names of Vedic/Hindu deities or sounds that 
are closely associated with these deities. The evidence regarding the 
true nature of the mantras can be found in Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's 
own writings. In 1955, prior to coming to the West, three of his 
lectures were included in a book published in India called Beacon 
Light of the Himalayas. In one of these lectures he states the 
following regarding the mantras:

"…we find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the mind 
to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', flower, 
table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can do nothing 
more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there are some special 
sounds which have the additional efficacy of producing vibrations 
whose effects are found to be congenial to our way of life. This is 
the scientific reason why we do not select any word at random. For 
our practice we select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. 
Such mantras fetch to us the grace of personal Gods and make us 
happier in every walk of life." 

So, we have an early quote from MMY talking about what the mantras 
are.  I rest my case.

To your other points, whether we want to say that all gods are 
manifestation of Brahman or not, within both the Jewish and Hindu 
religious systems, they have a life of their own, regardless of the 
labels we attach to them (for origin).  That the Lord in the OT 
refers to other gods is of interest and is rarely commented on.  I 
see this as an acknowledgement by Him that yes, indeed, there are 
entities that you can contact, lower "g" gods, who function at very 
subtle levels of "life" and no, I do not want you (Hebrew people) to 
contact them.  They are not for you, so stay away.  Mentally 
entertaining the energy of any other deity other than the system as 
espoused and explained by Moses was and is still forbidden.  If God 
wanted the Hebrews to just merely meditate he would have taught a 
less restrictive regime of practices.  Judaism is very highly 
restrictive because the path that was laid down for these souls was 
only for them and for no other types.  It could only be properly 
lived if lived only in that restrictive, closed way.  It is no 
coincidence that so many Jews have flocked to TM (and many other 
Eastern teachings) over the decades.  But, that is for another 
discussion. 

I do not believe we have to believe in the existence of other gods, 
pagan or however else you term them.  The God that revealed Himself 
to these people said He was exclusive and the laws, codes and 
directives were for association with only Him in the way He revealed 
Himself and to no other entity/energy/representation. These people 
were 100% surrounded by pagan relegions and were highly influenced by 
them.  They loved spirituality to a level we today do not 
appreciate.  Their guidebook was what it was: exclusive and 
prohibitive.  

Regards,

Fred

> Not to comment on the teachings of your religion,
> but the TM mantras are *not* the "names" of "pagan
> gods." They are sounds that have become associated
> with these gods (who have their own perfectly good
> names). Plus which, the gods are all said to be
> expressions of Brahman, the Ultimate One.
> 
> The Hebrew Scriptures may not be ambiguous on this
> point, but whether and how the prohibition applies
> to mentally entertaining a bija mantra may not be
> quite so clear.
> 
> Also, of course, you have to believe in the real
> existence of pagan gods in order to be concerned
> about them swaying or influencing you.
>


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