--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote: > > > > > > LOL. There are plenty of "fully enlightened" folks in > > > the TM from the cooks to da King (I assume) but the TMO > > > definition of full enlightenment is merely that one have > > > a sufficiently stress free nervous system that one never > > > loses Self, even during intense activity or sleep. > > > > > > Not a big deal: as MMY says, merely normal. > > > > > > "Does King Tony float at will?" seems to be what you are > > > asking. It seems obvious that MMY wasn't a perfected > > > floater since he died of old age, so why would you expect > > > King Tony to be? > > > > Lawson, just as a point, not everyone *believes* > > the "TMO definition of enlightenment." > > > > The first part above makss sense to me as an over- > > simplified "baseline" for enlightenment. But the > > floating thing? I don't believe that for an instant, > > and neither do 99% of the enlightenment traditions > > on the planet. > > > > Why do you? > > > > Oh yeah, I forgot...Maharishisez. > > Huh, I've been under the impression that most enlightenment > traditions DO accept MMY's premise, save that they think that > it isn't necessary to actually demonstrate the ability to > float to show that one is enlightened. Of course, the TM > stance doesn't say its necessary that one demonstrate > floating, only that if one practices the Yoga Sutra for > Yogic FLying and does NOT float, then one isn't fully > enlightened. > > Or are you talking about the aging thing? A fully enlightened > person have transcended mortality (if it be possible), > according to TM theory, but aging, per se, wouldn't be a > contra-indication of full enlightenment.
I'm talking about levitation. > Its not that far off from other theories of enlightenment > either, as far as I am aware. I would suggest then that you are not aware of very much. I know of NO spiritual tradition on the planet with the exception of Maharishi's TMO that believes that the indicator of full enlight- enment is the ability to float (levitate). I know of many who would, in fact, disagree with this vehemently. Please find me a quote that says otherwise. If you can't, I suggest that your "impression" came about because you just accepted what Maharishi said was the definition of full enlightenment BECAUSE HE SAID IT, and that you never looked into any other traditions' definitions of enlightenment, because you never had to. You already HAD the definition, and it was true because Maharishisez.
