--- In [email protected], "ruthsimplicity"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> > I know of NO spiritual tradition on
> > the planet with the exception of Maharishi's TMO
> > that believes that the indicator of full enlight-
> > enment is the ability to float (levitate). I know
> > of many who would, in fact, disagree with this
> > vehemently.
> > 
> > Please find me a quote that says otherwise. If
> > you can't, I suggest that your "impression" came
> > about because you just accepted what Maharishi
> > said was the definition of full enlightenment 
> > BECAUSE HE SAID IT, and that you never looked 
> > into any other traditions' definitions of 
> > enlightenment, because you never had to. You
> > already HAD the definition, and it was true
> > because Maharishisez.
> 
> If I may briefly interrupt this discussion, I have a 
> question. Did MMY clearly say that if you could not 
> "float" you were not enlightened? Is there a written 
> source for that?

I don't have a source, Ruth, but it has been
quoted here often with no refutations from
the TM faithful. The criterion may have been 
for "full enlightenment," as Lawson has been
using it. I dunno.

I do know that not only do I not agree with
it, back in the early days of his teaching,
*Maharishi* didn't agree with it. At Squaw
Valley in 1968 he gave several talks in which 
he said emphatically that the siddhis and the 
ability to perform them had nothing whatsoever 
to do with enlightenment. At that time he
actively pooh-poohed interest in the siddhis.
It was the original context of his "capture
the fort" metaphor, as I remember. 

Obviously, this former teaching went by the
wayside when he found a way to sell the siddhis.



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