> > > What is the difference? Are they different on a continum or > > entirely > > > different? This "overshadowing" or 'channeling'. > > > > > > Invoking disembodied beings one way or another, just different > > > frequencies of praying or communication? Just wondering. > > > > > > -Doug in FF > > > > nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> > >wrote: > > > > His Master is a yogi of high caliber, and may or may not be > > disembodied. > > > > It is entirely different as it does not go against the free will > of > > the subject in any way.>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Interesting distinction, betwx willing and unwilling communication, > with the dis-incarnate? Willing and unwilling? Is there a point where "over-shadowing" can become, 'possession'? Is that your distinction between, "over- shadowing" and 'channeling' as on a continum where dabbling gets beyond control as in, out of control: "over-shadowing", "channeling", "possession"? > > Maybe Dr. Pete has clinical experience with this? > Dr. David R. Hawkins talks about these things as parts of the spiritualist 'astral circus', to be avoided by spiritual seekers. Like with the stern warning in Patanjali and by Shankara. "When tempted by invisible beings in high places, let the yogi feel neither allured nor flattered; for he is in danger of being caught once more by ignorance" III-v52 Patanjali Yoga Sutras (Prabhvananda translation). The 'disembodied' is commented upon by Patanjali in Chapter 1 v-19 and also commentary by Shankara. v-19 for instance, "This (Samadhi when not followed by extreme non- atachment) becomes cause of the re-manifestation of the gods and of those that become merged in nature." (Vivikananda) or "When such concentration is not accompanied by non-attachment, and ignorance therefore remains, the aspirant will reach the state of the disincarnate gods or become merged with the forces of Nature." (-Prabhvananda) "The Yogi should not feel allured or flattered by the >overtures > > >of > > > > celestial beings for fear of evil again." - III-v52 Patanjali Yoga Sutras (Vivekananda translation) > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > > > > <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > So, Ben Crème `channels' this? Is pretty heady. How does it > > > >jive, > > > > > with that stern warning in the Yoga Sutras? Just wondering. > > > > > > > > > > "The Yogi should not feel allured or flattered by the > >overtures > > > >of > > > > > celestial beings for fear of evil again." - III-52 Patanjali > > > >Yoga > > > > > Sutras > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Maitreya, the World Teacher, has not come alone, but with a > > > >group > > > > of > > > > > wise Teachers who have long guided humanity from behind the > > > >scenes. > > > > > They are returning to the everyday world to help us solve our > > > >most > > > > > critical global problems." http://www.shareintl.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is this type of alluring spiritualism on the rise in recent > > > >times? > > > > > Evidently there are several voices being heard by different > > > > people. > > > > > Just wondering. > > > > > > > > > > -Doug in FF > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> > > > >wrote: > > > > The process is called "overshadowing" - the result of long > > training > > > > in attunement to his Master. It has nothing to do with > channeling. > > > > > > > > From what I understand 36 Masters are to be with Maitreya, 12 > > have > > > > already incarnated. The Master Jesus from Nazareth is one of > > them. > > > > Brahmananda Saraswathi is currently not in incarnation, > >according > > > >to > > > > my information. > > > > > > > > Your quote from Patanjali is irrelevant in this context. > > > > > > > The quote is evidently relevant only in that it is a strong comment and warning, from scripture. Om
