> TurquoiseB wrote:
> > Many of the myths of humanity are about "heroes." And
> > many of those heroes prove their herohood in battle; 
> > they are warriors. Do I see upliftment and inspiration
> > in tales of the warrior mindset? Sometimes. Being will-
> > ing to fight to the death for what one believes IS 
> > inspiring, IF "what one believes" is inspiring in itself.
> 
Bhairitu wrote:
> The  hero myths are just a way of deluding the public 
> into believing they individually can change the world.  
> IOW, it is a diversion and at worst a form of mass 
> hypnosis.  
>
So, you're saying that Turq is deluded and hypnotized.

> That is not to say there is anything wrong about aspiring 
> to be a leader which entails becoming a strong person and 
> clear minded the latter of which is a benefit from spiritual 
> sadhana.   
>
> I once asked my tantra teacher why tantrics in India 
> didn't use tantra to drive out invaders.  He said first 
> of all it would have required the efforts of many tantrics
> (who are probably to anarchistic to be organized) and it 
> would be messing with the kalachakra (or destiny).  But 
> then what if it was the destiny of the tantrics to do 
> just that?
>
Because it was the your destiny to believe in tantra
teachers who told myths about tantrics who could mess 
with time?

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