--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In [email protected], "endlessrainintoapapercup"
> <endlessrainintoapapercup@> wrote:
> >
> > Technically, I didn't say "all is one".  
> > I said that there is one reality. How 
> > can you argue against the existence 
> > of reality? 
> 
> Easy. Who is the *perceiver* of reality?

The perception of reality is all
part of the experience of reality itself.

> 
> If you're claiming that transcendence is
> "the reality," who is the *perceiver* while
> you are transcending? If there is one, you
> aren't transcending.

I'm not saying that transcendence,
whatever it means to anyone,
is "the reality". But I'm suggesting
that reality necessarily includes the 
experience of transcending because
nothing can be outside of reality
which must be all-inclusive. Didn't
you, yourself, already say that all
things and states of consciousness
co-exist? They are co-existing within
that larger framework that I am
calling reality.


> 
> > As I am using the word, 
> > it includes everything in the
> > phenomenological world and everything
> > outside of it, all that exists, everything
> > that doesn't. 
> 
> And again, who is the *perceiver* of this
> so-called "reality?" 

This is a very good and deep question.
This question, in its many forms, lies
at the heart of the quest for
enlightenment, the quest to understand
the true nature of reality. 

>Are you claiming that
> "you" can perceive all of the things you
> listed above?

Is this a trick question?



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