--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You missed a couple of points. One: the groups were divided > according to self-reports in the original experiment and in > the followup (as below) and two, the previous study had > checked for possible physiological differences between these > groups. THIS study was a followup to see if there were > differences on psychological tests and interviews in the > three groups. The groups naturally fell into 3 self-selected > groups. You would be part of group two, by the self-reporting > criterion of the first study. The characterization of the groups > as being long-term and shotrt-term TM is actually irrelevant to > the study itself and at least partly reflects Travis's > expectations. > > "The 51 subjects in this research comprised three groups based > on degree of self-reported experiences of pure, self-referral > consciousness during activity. > > The Non-TM group (N 17, age 39.7 +/-11.5 years) > did not practice a meditation technique and rarely if ever > reported the experience of pure self-referral consciousness. > > The Short-Term TM group (N 17; age 42.5 +/-11.5 years) had > practiced TM for about eight years (7.8 +/-3.0 years), and > reported pure self-referral consciousness experiences during > TM but only occasionally during daily life. > > The Long-term TM group (N 17; age 46.5 +/-7.0 years) had > practiced TM for about 25 years (24.5 +/-1.2 years) and > reported the continuous experience of pure self-referral > consciousness throughout daily life. (The age differences > between groups were not statistically signiïcant, F 2; > 481:90, p :160) > Each group comprised eight females and nine males. "
Uh...Lawson. As you have defined the study above couldn't it be accurately described as a study to determine how long it takes to train a person to "self report experiences of self-referral consc- iousness?" It looks to me as if the study's finding is that it takes the TM organization 25 years of indoctrination to train people to report these things consistently. :-)
