--- In [email protected], "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ----What place? > > suicide, failure, not worth a shit. Don't get me wrong. I stll love > ya like a brother, but why else would you come down like this unless > something was hitting too close to home. > > ------That's right. So fuck off. Go worship your suicidal loser. > See where it gets you.
Some people, Llun obviously among them, have strong feelings about suicide. I don't get into coming up with convenient explanations for why this particular guy did it, other than to point out something that even the True Believers in that organization tend to overlook. There seems to be little question that he got himself hooked on Valium. It was originally prescribed after some kind of injury, but he got royally hooked on them. Then, being the kind of "I can handle it" guy he was, he decided to quit, cold turkey. Several days later he was dead. Well, duh. If you go to the Web pages on Valium, you find in BIG LETTERS stuff for doctors about never advising anyone to just stop, without carefully wean- ing themselves from the effects of the drug. One of the prime reasons given is the certainty of uncontrol- lable depression, and the likelihood of suicide. Some Rama True Believers think he was sick, and had some incurable illness, and just didn't want to waste away in some hospital bed somewhere. I don't believe that; there was no evidence of such disease. On the other hand, many of the physical symptoms he complained about in his last days were quite real. They are again listed on the same Web pages dealing with Valium addic- tion, as side effects of dependence on the drug. It would've been just like him to assume he was dying instead of taking responsibility for poisoning himself with Valium. Bottom line is that Llun is right -- it's a sad end to an otherwise interesting life. He was the most gifted speaker on spiritual subjects I've ever met, a real artist when it came to teaching. And he pissed it all away and did himself in. Shit happens. And just because you can meditate well and do siddhis doesn't mean that you are above getting some of the shit on you when it hits the fan. Look at Chogyam Trungpa, the recognized tulku of a famous saint, respected by a respected Tibetan lineage, who drank and screwed himself to death. Spirituality is not as comic-book simple as some people would like it to be. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
