--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > He was the most gifted > > speaker on spiritual subjects I've ever met, a real > > artist when it came to teaching. And he pissed it all > > away and did himself in. Shit happens. And just because > > you can meditate well and do siddhis doesn't mean that > > you are above getting some of the shit on you when it > > hits the fan. > > very interesting discussion and experiences with Rama, Unc. His > pattern seems extreme in that he was able to do many sidhis, and > chose suicide, but haven't we seen it before in other ways, with > other very gifted people? I'm thinking of all of the gifted > musicians who left early in the 70's, 80's...
As hippie rock 'n roll promoters, working with some of these musicians, we used to call them "burn jobs," or "a nova waiting for its moment." Interestingly enough, there was an element of that in Rama. He used to say, "Spiritual teachers are like stars; they burn their very substance to give light." To some extent he was always fascinated with martyr- dom. One of his favorite movies was William Peter Blatty's "The Ninth Configuration." > ...and others, who on the one hand have > tremendous gifts, and yet are incredibly blind to themselves > in other areas. Sometimes I think that the enlightened are just work- ing on a different set of samskaras than we are. They seem to have gotten past many of the ones that bother us, so we think they're cool. And they are, but like us, they're still Working On It. > One of the great gifts that Maharishi's TM provided to so many > of us was a spiritual practice that emphasizes developing the > whole person, the totality, 360. Now even that (as we discuss > at length here...) has gone off track with all of the subsequent > knowledge that has emerged- sidhis, TMO stuff, false > pronouncements, etc, etc. I honestly don't think it's been different in any time in history. For every seeker, there comes a point at which he or she has to decide, "Should I do as I'm told, or should I follow my own intuition?" Those moments may be the whole reason we practice spirituality. <snip> > So perhaps Rama's lesson to us is that- take the right direction, > don't lose yourself in the glitter, don't toy with the power of > the Universe lightly; the Universe always wins. Or, "Don't believe your own P.R." > And despite all of the relative issues we see with Maharishi's > message, the main lesson is that if we want enlightenment, choose > our path carefully, both for fundamental technique, and how we > treat the results. And how we treat others. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
