Good morning. On Jun 12, 2005, at 7:36 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> Huh? That last bit is just someone's conspiracy theory. > I've been in the man's personal library a few times. > There was nothing much in it but books, the same books > you probably have in yours, none of them on hypnotism. It was the library on LI. I was just asking as it was considered taboo at various times. > > The thing is, Vaj, anyone can rationalize away *anything*. > It happens every day. What makes you think it doesn't > happen in spiritual circles? Chances are there were > originally 24 disciples of Christ, but the other 12 got > scared when they were exposed to things they couldn't > easily explain, so they went the route of finding con- > venient "explanations" to explain them away. "He didn't > *really* walk on water. We were just hypnotized." Well in my own experiences with siddhis, both in practice and in others, there are certain things I look for based on that experience. Having heard the experiences of those who were hypnotized and experienced incredible things, I note the experiential differences between the two and then on observation go with which feels right. Hearing about Zen Master Rama 3rd hand via email isn't a real "close" experience, so I can only comment based on what I'm getting from email and websites. I didn't really want to comment at all till Cardemaister made her comments which merely touched my own impression. > > The naivete here of people who think that showing the > siddhis to someone would convince them that they exist > is astounding. IMO it would convince about 10% of the > people, the same percentage who would be convinced of > their existence just by hearing about them. I was more convinced when they had a practical nature--curing someone who was utterly psychotic with a glance, stopping rains, etc.--and then casually performed out of an innocence and lack of ego. In cases like that it seemed to have some value on the relative level. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
