> > Huh? That last bit is just someone's conspiracy theory. > > I've been in the man's personal library a few times. > > There was nothing much in it but books, the same books > > you probably have in yours, none of them on hypnotism. > > It was the library on LI. I was just asking as it was > considered taboo at various times.
There was no such library. It's just someone's conspiracy theory. There was much to find in the man's life to speak ill of without having to make stuff up. :-) > > The thing is, Vaj, anyone can rationalize away *anything*. > > It happens every day. What makes you think it doesn't > > happen in spiritual circles? Chances are there were > > originally 24 disciples of Christ, but the other 12 got > > scared when they were exposed to things they couldn't > > easily explain, so they went the route of finding con- > > venient "explanations" to explain them away. "He didn't > > *really* walk on water. We were just hypnotized." > > Well in my own experiences with siddhis, both in practice and > in others, there are certain things I look for based on that > experience. Having heard the experiences of those who were > hypnotized and experienced incredible things, I note the > experiential differences between the two and then on observation > go with which feels right. In other words, you are choosing to believe what you choose to believe. No problem with that. I just wouldn't necessarily confuse what you choose to believe with univer- sal truth if I were you. As you've pointed out, that's a pretty sure path to solipsism, ego and a pretty unhappy life. > Hearing about Zen Master Rama 3rd hand via email isn't a > real "close" experience, so I can only comment based on what > I'm getting from email and websites. True. Why do you think I avoid such discussions. All they do is push people's buttons, without resolving diddley-squat. > I didn't really want to comment at all till Cardemaister > made her comments which merely touched my own impression. You are *entitled* to your impression. I'm not trying to change it. You *should* go with your impression. I did, too. When it changed, I moved on. I'm not a "Rama student." I am grateful for the time I spent with him and for the things, both positive and negative, that I learned from him. Both positive and negative, they helped make me the person I am now. And I'm pretty content with that person. > > The naivete here of people who think that showing the > > siddhis to someone would convince them that they exist > > is astounding. IMO it would convince about 10% of the > > people, the same percentage who would be convinced of > > their existence just by hearing about them. > > I was more convinced when they had a practical nature--curing > someone who was utterly psychotic with a glance, stopping rains, > etc.--and then casually performed out of an innocence and lack > of ego. In cases like that it seemed to have some value on the > relative level. I can buy that. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
