--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues"
> <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> >
> > > It's just that you can't really settle the
> > > pragmatic issues if solipsism is theoretically
> > > possible.
> > 
> > I'm not sure it was ever intended to be used as an actual 
> > possibility though.  It is more like talking with a physicist 
> > about the math used. The math isn't an end in itself in the 
> > context of physics. Solipsism was never championed by anyone 
> > as an explanation for our life. It is more like the end of a 
> > slippery slope in a certain direction of thinking.
> 
> Yup. I still like my punch-em-in-the-solar-
> plexus approach to solipsists. "Theoretically"
> is another way of saying, "If the universe
> worked the way I'd like it to..." Why get
> involved with that level of egoidiocy? Better
> to leave them sitting on the ground gasping
> for breath and wondering how they ever thought
> *that* one up IMO.  :-)
>
Being the creator of your own universe has nothing at all to do with 
creating your own little "happybubble" as you think it does. You 
read these words or any others, and form opinions, which are subtly 
different than anyone else's opinions, just like everything else you 
perceive. This is one proof that you create your own universe, and I 
mine, etc. Otherwise, we wouldn't have to struggle at all to 
understand one another, nor would anyone disagree, ever. Your 
position argues for isolation and conformity, not the other 
way 'round. 

Your position that we co-create the universe, or even this moment 
together presupposes that you know what this moment is like for me. 
But you don't, and vice versa. That is because I experience this 
moment from my unique perspective, as it unfolds, to me, and you do 
the same. In other words, you create your universe, and I create 
mine. Everything else is just consensus, a tool, a convenience. But 
to assume that you perceive things the same way I do is way off, in 
my opinion. 

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