--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > "I've always noticed that a good surprise punch > > > in the solar plexus cures most solipsists of > > > their naive belief that they create the universe > > > all by themselves." > > > > > > (BTW, Barry has never actually met a solipsist, > > > let alone punched one in the solar plexus.) > > > > BTW, Barry has. Both. It worked then > > (on someone having a psychotic solipsistic > > break and doing damage to himself and his > > family) > > The more I think about this, the more appalling > it is.
The more you obsess, and try to "win," the more I win. :-) > In the first place, this *single* encounter with > a psychotic solipsist is what Barry uses to > justify his claim above that he's "always noticed > that a good surprise punch in the solar plexus > cures most solipsists of their naive belief...." > > "ALWAYS noticed"--on the basis of one individual. > "Cures MOST solipsists"--on the basis of one > individual. > > Six separate boasts about how he hit this poor > guy in the middle of a psychotic break and left > him gasping for breath. Only one about the guy; five about the theory of using a little reality therapy to cure solipsists of their belief that they create it. > *One guy* who was > having trouble connecting with reality, and > Barry can't stop bragging about how he messed > up somebody who was already seriously messed up. Well, Jude...the "guy" was my brother, and he had just finished beating up my 70-year-old father and almost doing the same to an equally elderly neighbor, yelling at them both that they "didn't exist," and were just figments of his imagination. He had problems. I thought a little reality therapy was in order, because he didn't *think* he had problems. He thought at that point that the entire universe did his bidding. I'm pretty sure you can grok this state of mind if you try, Judy...just ponder the way that *you* treat people and think of them. That's how he was at the time. :-) > Elsewhere he explains that with the punch to the > guy's stomach, he didn't "have to put up with > nearly as much self importance" on the part of > this fellow. No, that was specifically about Jim. Who can waste time arguing with a mental midget? You're mixing apples and oranges again, Judy. In your attempt to bash me, you are conflating five general posts with one specific one. :-) > *Imagine* saying that about someone having a > psychotic break. Yes, imagine it. And *you* are the person who just said and suggested it. I never did. You made that up. In other words, you LIED. And all to bash someone you don't like on an Internet forum. Imagine that. Kinda sad, doncha think? > Or this: > > "I've got no time for selves that are so afraid > of the concept of a joyfully unknowable reality > that they have come to believe that they created > it." Jim again, and you. You really don't get it, do you? Why you are obsessing like this is that *you* chose to defend solipsism, even if only in theory, and I characterized it as a philos- ophy that was better left behind with diapers. THAT is what pushed your buttons, just as it was calculated to do. :-) > Or this: > > "Better to leave them sitting on the ground > gasping for breath and wondering how they ever > thought *that* one up IMO. :-)" Jim again. And...somewhat obviously, given how even the *discussion* of such "shock tactics" have pushed your buttons and sent you over the edge, you. :-) > Or this: > > "I guess I'm not a fan of solipsism because, frankly, > I just don't have the imagination that its adherents > have. If they actually believe that they create all > of the phenomena and beings around them, they've got > a *lot* more imagination that I have." Remember, Barry wasn't speaking of *anyone* in particular in this rap. Judy made that up. There is a name for this process...it's called LYING. :-) That was a general-purpose rap that had nothing to do with my brother. It was about the silly solipsist wannabees on this forum and about solip- sists in general. > Remember who he's talking about--someone having > *a psychotic break*. No WONDER Judy doesn't think that Hillary lies and makes things up about Obama. She probably doesn't realize that that's what she's doing with me. Only one of my posts (now two, counting this one) men- tioned or had anything to do with my brother. The rest were...what was that word that Judy used, claiming I was afraid of it while she was comfortable with it?...oh yeah, the word was "theoretical." > I don't know what you can possibly call this > but sociopathy, a pathological lack of empathy, > not to mention extreme anger. You could call it yet another completely successful attempt to manipulate Judith Stein into making a complete fool of herself and demonstrating once again the lengths she will go to (including making things up and lying) to demonize one of her "enemies." She lied about the number of her posts this week bashing me and her rationale for them, too. Bottom line is that Judy's been GOT, once again, and now will spend most of the few posts she has left this week pretending that she hasn't been. :-) If I were Judy, I'd say about now, "I win." But I will choose a less solipsistic phrase, one that does not imply that I "created" this situation (even if, in this case, I did), and suggest instead that "Judy is a loser." Isn't that much more polite than claiming that "I win?" :-)
