> > I find the "Self" to be a bit of a silly term too, but I do not clain > to be enlightened either. > I do know that the purifying bliss-fire that physically changes the > body feels alien to me in some ways, and yet it is so powerful no > being in the universe can possibly avoid being sub-servient to it, > and you wouldn't want to either. The concept would be absurd, even > though in the beginning you feel like you are being annihilated, and > resist it greatly. Later you just give up to it. > > As world consciousness rises there will be no escape from it (even by > those fools that will still be shouting "its just attachment to feel- > good!" as they are submerged and consumed by its power forevermore.) > > What I am trying to figure out is what people mean by things like > > enlightenment and bliss and witnessing and consciousness, etc. > Tough job.>> > > I think pursuing 'enlightenment is a waste of time and basically > drives people nuts and/or makes them like some kind of autistic > compulsive type gibbering on about ""enlightenment, oooo, where's the > enlightenment?"" > There are a few of them on FFL. > > Maharishi pretty much describes enlightenment as when the body and > mind no longer store karma as stress (which builds up like unwanted > gunk in an engine) and also he said a million times that 24 hour > bliss (witnessing sleep in bliss) is a good marker stone. > > I have neither of these and I don't care about that, but I have many > times had prolonged periods of these, and the bliss I have > experienced almost every night, is undoubtedly more like a purifying > fire from Heaven (or somewhere higher) than some feelgood chillin' > out thang, that the descenters on FFL think it is because they have > never experienced the bliss-fire. > > OffWorld
This lack of experience in those that criticise TM, and the fact that many TM'ers report this and similar experiences, is obviously a red cloth right in the face of people like the Turq and others here on FFL. Not experiencing much now or during their more or less short practise they panic by the thought that the technique the abandoned because of lack of patience and seriousness all those years ago actually works very well. And resort to ridicule.
