--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > So, if you are called 'anti-TMer' think about why you are being 
> > called like that. You surely hurt people and their practise. And 
> > like others here (Vaj) try to spread confusion.
> 
> You bring up some interesting points, but I think I 
> already dealt with them in my response to your previous
> post quoting scripture.  You feel strongly about your
> allegiance to a former spiritual trip, and so do I, 

No,it's less about TM per se,it's the very principle.That's not unique
to TM.

> but
> in very different ways -- my allegiance is to the well-
> being of the students, not the teacher. 

But mine is as well,you see. Lawson was complaining about the Guru
trashing from the perspective of the student as I understand. We do
not have to protect MMY,he doesn't need it, and he doesn't read this
forum.

>  And you have
> assumptions about how one is "supposed" to act with 
> regard to a teacher that I do not share, and never have.

Again wrong. It's more about how to act respecting other peoples
feelings and believes as such. I have strong feelings of not
undermining other peoples faith, especially not if they have good
experiences with whatever they do. If somebody has bad experiences,
it's a different matter. But in order to part with something, I do not
have to trash it. I may simply leave it. It's a matter of respect. I
personally have always adopted the policy for myself to strenghthen
the belief of the people. That's essential. I may believe something
different, but thats not the point.

> "One path fits all" is about as true in the world of 
> spirituality as "one size fits all" is in a shoe store.

Then you have clearly misunderstood me. I am not saying that you
should do TM, Bhakti, Hindu, etc. Did I say anything like this?

> You get off on devotion, and more power to you for that.

I am not very specifically a Bhakta. But all the wise people I know
about have said, that it comes with time on ANY path, that is also the
Jnana path. I am not burning incense to Krishna.

> But you can't appeal to me with that approach, because
> it doesn't do diddley-squat for me and never has.  

You had the ill luck with some teacher who took off exactly on this.
What I always wanted you to ask about Lenz: He was an offshot of
Chinmoy, who again was an offshot of Aurobindo. Did you get any
acquaintance with Aurobindo in your time with Lenz, or was this
totally out of the picture by that time?





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