Barry... thanks for clarifying your POV.

TurquoiseB wrote:

> > > It is clear from this account, directly by the Samhita of the
> > > Veda, that criticism of ones spiritual path, and of ones
> > > spiritual preceptor must be seen as a sin against the gods
> > > themselves, whom the preceptor represents.
> >
> > While I respect both you and your devotional approach
> > to spirituality, I think that you have come to believe
> > that scripture was written by God.
> >
> > It wasn't.  It was written by MEN, and in this case,
> > by the VERY men who are saying that it's a sin to
> > question them or their motives or speak ill of them
> > of do anything other than what they tell you to do.
> >
> > You seem to be of the opinion that these MEN who wrote
> > these things were doing so for only pure motives.  I
> > make no such assumption.  They were establishing a set
> > of guidelines so that no one would ever think for them-
> > selves and judge spiritual teachers as *people*, for
> > fear that to do so would be a sin.
>
> Just to temper this somewhat, and explain a little
> bit more what might be easily misconstrued, I have
> *no problem* with those who believe scripture is
> the revealed word of God.  I'm just making the point
> that some people seem to feel that because *they*
> believe this, that others should, too.
>
> I don't.  First, I don't believe in a sentient God,
> one who has thoughts that could be written down.
> Second, although I easily accept the possibility of
> lesser "gods" or devas, I give them no more credence
> and pay no more attention to them than I would a
> fellow human being.  They are interesting, but not
> much of relevance to my life.  And it's not just the
> Hindu or Western scriptures; I feel exactly the same
> way about the canon of Buddhism.
>
> I tend to regard scripture as literature.  I fully
> believe that some scripture is *inspired* literature,
> and that some of it was inspired in men who were fully
> enlightened and writing their visions down for the
> general betterment of humanity, as an act of service.
> At the same time, I believe that some of it very much
> reflected the prejudices and the assumptions of the
> time in which it was written, and the prejudices and
> the assumptions and the particular path of the enlight-
> ened person who wrote it down.
>
> I'm not convinced that there is a "one size fits all"
> spiritual path that "fits" everyone.  Similarly, I am
> not convinced that there is a "one size fits all" set
> of scriptures that accurately describes the best path
> to follow or best set of dharmic actions for everyone.
> I tend to treat every scripture I read with as much
> respect as I can, but as One Man's Vision, not as the
> word of God or the word of the Absolute or even as
> something that is applicable to all men in all times.
>
> I hope this clarifies what I was trying to say earlier.
> I'm really not ragging on those who believe strongly
> that scripture IS the revealed word of God, merely
> pointing out that when interacting with people, assuming
> that it is and that the other person *agrees* with you
> that it is is fallacious.
>
> Wishing you well on your path, and everyone here just as
> well on theirs, whatever it may be.  I am convinced that
> they all lead to the same place, and that occasionally
> the paths -- however different they may seem -- run
> parallel to each other.  When they do, we can wave at
> each other and trade stories about what our particular
> path was like, and the adventures we had as we got to
> this particular point in the journey that is not even
> a journey, because there is nowhere to "go."  And then
> we each wave goodbye and "go" our own Way.
>
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