--- In [email protected], "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > tertonzeno wrote: > > The Ramakrishna mantra I received from > > the resident teacher at the Vedanta Temple > > in Hollywood... > > > About a year after my TM initiation I was > meditating at the Vedanta Temple in Hollywood > with Franklin Jones and I heard my TM bija > mantra being recited during the puja. That's > when I realized that the TM bijas are pretty > common - not just made up sounds by the > Marshy. But they were not being used the same > way - I was using my bija to transcend, they > were chanting in order to entertain. > > > Sant Mat Mantras > > > Not sure about this. When I was involved in > Sant Mat, there were no 'mantras' given out. > Charan Singh just told me to concentrate on > the 'Sound Current', Shabd, Naam. > > > ...or attempted use of "Om Nama Shivaya" > > or "Om Shivaya Namah" silently, after > > getting involved with Muktananda. > > > From what I could tell, the Muktananda sadhaks > didn't really have a clue about the transcending > aspect of meditation. Again, a lot of chanting > and talking about the transcending. There was > no checking involved, so how would anyone > know if they were transcending or not? > > > These Shiva mantras are quite powerful if > > chanted by a group; but didn't measure up to > > my TM mantra when used silently. > > > There's just no comparison to having a puja > after a group meditation using TM - it is > much more powerful after the transcending. > > I've been present during many ISKCON pujas > and many ISDL pujas for many years - no > comparison. This also goes for the pujas held > at Dharmadatu and S.F. Zen Center. > > > ...just picking a mantra out of a book > > > A 'mantra' can only be given by a guru in an > initiation, otherwise it's not really a mantra. > A mantra is anything the guru says it is. > > [snip] > > > Nope, after a direct experience "taste test", > > TM turned out to be superior to others, in > > regard to the criterion of Shakti. > > > Based on my experience, TM is the easiest, most > effective, and best meditation technique on the > entire planet. I don't have a vested interest > in saying this since I'm not a TM teacher. > > Like Judy says, I'm just a rank-and-file TMer. > But based on my experience of forty years, I > can now say without the least hesitation that > TM is just what intelligent people do!
Amen :-)
