Patrick,
I was way to brief in my post. I'm not suggesting that people don't reach the Goal once they switched paths (in fact that's one reason that I consider myself a Seeker), but that once assurred that you're on your way, don't get sidetracked or detoured. Of couse Enlightenment is freely avaailable in many ways (including no Practice and no Teaching), but that once one's experience is Real, stay the course.--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 20, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "danfriedman2002" wrote: > > >> > > >> TM requires practice for the development of full benefits. Going > > >> from 'boat to boat' will not get the seeker to the other shore. > > > > > > I understand Fairfield has a few score people who > > > qualify as fully enlightened. If that's true, how > > > many woke up after abandoning TM for something else? > > > > > > I think there are signs that people are beginning > > to awaken in FF and > > other places and some are just having nice > > meditative experiences-- > > common ones which are often mistaken for > > Enlightenment. But I have > > not heard of anyone who meets the criteria > > of "CC" as Maharishi > > Mahesh Yogi described it, so I think your > > claim of "full > > enlightenment" is a tad premature. > > I'm talking about unity consciousness. I > understood there were people in Fairfield > claiming unity consciousness. That's what > I'm asking to confirm, deny or elaborate upon. > > > In many > > ways it seems a typical neoadvaita scene. > > Please elaborate - I don't get a mental > image of what a neoadvaita scene would be, > for all the use of that term here. > > > It seems many of these people did begin to have good experiences > > after leaving the movement, some with other meditation techniques, > > some remaining with TM and/or the TMSP. > > Such may be the case, but I'm questioning > whether there are people in Fairfield who > reached enlightenment after switching paths. > Dan Friedman says it isn't done, but I somehow > got the impression it had been done. >
