--- In [email protected], "John M. Knapp, LMSW" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hell, I *started out* disillusioned with the TMO. I
> > always thought it sucked big-time and have seen no
> > reason to change that opinion. That's why its more
> > recent antics (rajas and recerts and so on) didn't
> > surprise or upset me.
> 
> You offer this generality over and over again. I don't
> see how it gives you any creds as a TM critic.

Did I suggest I was looking for "creds as a TM critic"?

> What exactly do you find disillusioning about the TM
> Org? What would you like to see changed? What would
> you like to keep intact?

I thought you said you understood that I had refused
to discuss TM "reform" with you. I don't believe
your motivations are sincere, based on long past
experience (including but by no means limited to the
Trancenet Alert "press releases" that you've claimed
you aren't at all ashamed of 12 years afterward).

I've also said several times that I agree with Barry,
reform is a "doomed project." I'm not sure it isn't
a waste of time to discuss it with *anybody*, no
matter how sincere they are.



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