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>
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> >
> > --- In [email protected]
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> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected]
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> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected]
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> <shempmcgurk@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected]
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> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In [email protected]
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> > > <no_reply@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In [email protected]
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> > > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > , "do.rflex"
> > > <do.rflex@>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
> > > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > , "Rick Archer"
> > > <rick@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Maharishi University of Management,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Holland Celebrates the
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Dawn of a New World Order of Peace
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -the Rise of Perfection in World Politics and Economy
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Four Nations Identified as Embodying the Cardinal
> > > Qualities
> > > > > of an
> > > > > > > Ideal
> > > > > > > > > State
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > An Historic Day of
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Great Celebration for the World
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Today, Maharishi University of Management celebrates
> the
> > > dawn
> > > > > of a
> > > > > > > > New World
> > > > > > > > > Order of Peace, as demonstrated by the invincibility
> of
> > > > > President
> > > > > > > Fidel
> > > > > > > > > Castro of Cuba, the freedom of President Robert
> Mugabe of
> > > > > Zimbabwe,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My God! Anybody who agrees that Mugabe
> represents 'freedom'
> > > is
> > > > > one
> > > > > > > > sick fuck.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That fact that the official TMO apparently put out this
> > > notice
> > > > > is just
> > > > > > > > another blatant indication that the whole thing is an
> > > > > unconscionable
> > > > > > > > perversion of spiritual teaching beyond the pale.>>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It was an ancient announcement by Maharishi who
> congratulated
> > > > > every
> > > > > > > leader up until about 2002 or so when he pummelled Bush
> and
> > > > > Blair, the
> > > > > > > two headed dog.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But you and the other dopes here fell for Rick's
> deliberate
> > > > > > > manipulation. Haven't you noticed...Fidel Castro in not
> in
> > > power
> > > > > right
> > > > > > > now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Apart from that, a lot of people thought Mugabe was a
> good
> > > guy in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > beginning.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bullshit. Mugabe has been a tyrant and a killer since at
> least
> > > 1980.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ---Mugabe rose to prominence in the 1960s as the Secretary
> > > general
> > > > > of
> > > > > > the Zimbabwe African National Union (ZANU). For many years
> in
> > > the
> > > > > 60s
> > > > > > and 70s Mugabe was a political prisoner in Rhodesia. His
> goal
> > > was to
> > > > > > replace white minority-rule with one-party Marxist regime.
> [2]
> > > He
> > > > > left
> > > > > > Rhodesia in 1976 to join the Zimbabwe Liberation Struggle
> > > (Rhodesian
> > > > > > Bush War) from bases in Mozambique. The war ended in 1979;
> > > emerging
> > > > > > from this conflict, Mugabe was hailed by Africans as a hero.
> [3]
> > > [4]
> > > > > He
> > > > > > won the general elections of 1980, the first in which the
> > > majority
> > > > > > black Africans participated, amid reports of violent
> > > intimidation by
> > > > > > the militant freedom fighters he now controlled. Mugabe
> then
> > > became
> > > > > > the first Prime Minister of black-ruled Zimbabwe after
> calling
> > > for
> > > > > > reconciliation between formerly warring parties, including
> the
> > > white
> > > > > > people as well as rival parties.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The early years of Mugabe's rule saw killings targeting the
> > > Ndebele
> > > > > > tribe in the Matabeleland and Midlands areas of Zimbabwe.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since 1998 Mugabe's policies have increasingly elicited
> > > domestic and
> > > > > > international denunciation. His government pursued a costly
> > > > > > intervention in the Second Congo War, expropriated
> thousands of
> > > > > > white-owned farms, printed hundreds of trillions of
> Zimbabwean
> > > > > dollars
> > > > > > triggering hyperinflation,[5] and has been accused of
> harassing
> > > and
> > > > > > intimidating political opponents, particularly members of
> the
> > > > > Movement
> > > > > > for Democratic Change.[6] Zimbabwe's economy spiraled
> downward,
> > > [7]
> > > > > > with food and oil shortages,[8] and with massive internal
> > > > > > displacement[9] and emigration.[10] During this period
> Mugabe's
> > > > > > policies have been denounced in the West and at home as
> racist
> > > > > against
> > > > > > Zimbabwe's white minority.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mugabe
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mugabe>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > He's been a real disappointment to many people in the world
> > > > > > > who had high hopes.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The sad thing is that South Africa appears to be going down
> the
> > > same
> > > > > route.
> > > > >
> > > > > Apart from the fact that Nelson Mandela has refused to
> condemn
> > > > > Mugabe,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Former South African leader Nelson Mandela has added his voice
> to
> > > the
> > > > growing international condemnation of the political violence in
> > > Zimbabwe.
> > > >
> > > > In his first public comments about the crisis, he noted "the
> tragic
> > > > failure of leadership" of President Robert Mugabe...
> > > >
> > > > Speaking at a dinner in London to mark his 90th birthday, Mr
> > > Mandela said:
> > > >
> > > > "We watch with sadness the continuing tragedy in Darfur. Nearer
> to
> > > > home we have seen the outbreak of violence against fellow
> Africans
> > > in
> > > > our own country and the tragic failure of leadership in our
> > > > neighbouring Zimbabwe."
> > > >
> > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7474561.stm
<http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7474561.stm>
> > > >
> > >
> > > "In his first public comments..."
> > >
> > > Finally.
> > >
> > > It only took him 30 years...
> >
> >
> > Wrong again, Magoo:
> >
> > ----The problem with that position is that it is dead wrong,
> something
> > that anyone who spends a little time researching the subject would
> > understand. Here are two efforts/comments by President Mandela that
> > illustrate his concern for Zimbabwe over the 7+ years of this
> crisis.
> >
> > 1. Monday May 8, 2000, the Namibian paper picks up comments from
> > President Mandela in Johannesburg in which he notes that some
> African
> > leaders had liberated their countries and then overstayed their
> welcome.
> >
> > He noted in his comments that individuals like Alexander the Great,
> > Julius Caesar, Pompeii, and Adolf Hitler had also been brought down
> by
> > the ordinary masses.
> >
> > "They want to die in power because they have committed crimes. The
> > tyrant of the day can be destroyed by you and I." When asked whether
> > he was talking about Mugabe, Mandela stated: "Everybody here knows
> who
> > I am talking about."
>
>
>
>
>
> YOU STUPID IDIOT!  YOU ARE CONFIRMING MY POINT: MANDELA DID NOT I
> REPEAT DID NOT CONDEMN MUGABE.
>
> YOU SEE, IF HE ACTUALLY CONDEMNED MUGABE HE WOULD NOT HAVE
> SAID "EVERYBODY HERE KNOWS WHO I AM TALKING ABOUT" HE WOULD HAVE
> SAID "I AM TALKING ABOUT MUGABE".
>
>

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