--- In [email protected], "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > My bottom line is this: there is too much drug > > > use in this country. > > > > Based on real statistical studies? Or on your highly biased (used > as a > > technical term) extrapolation discussed above? > > > Dude. What planet are you living on? You don't see the amount of > prescription (and street) drugs being used in the good ole US of A? > Didn't think I needed to provide a "link" on that point.
It was unclear that you were referring to street drugs, since the whole discussion appeared to be on prescription drugs. If you want to now expand the discussion to include street drugs, thats fine. Personally, regarding prescription drugs, I think natural means (diet, exercise, etc) should be continued to be emphasized -- as my HMO and doctor do, and as the latest Merk ads do -- and that prescription drugs should be used as later if not last alternatives. However, I am awed by the power and comfort that modern drugs have brought many people and am thankful that they exist -- though I am aware of some (quite limited) shortcomings. Regarding street /recreational drugs, i think prohibition has done far more damage than good. People will self-medicate, whether with alcohol, rec-drugs, overeating, sex, etc until they find better alternatives that smooth out pain they feel, fill emptiness, or simply make them feel SO good. I personally favor natural means -- nutrition, exercise, yoga, meditation, good relations, spiritual practices etc over street /recreational drugs, and recommend such to others. But I dont' think its the state's role to interceede in every individuals' vision of "the pursuit of happiness". I am not sure if such a position warrants being accused of being an alien, but you are free, with my blessings evenn, to think of me any way you like. For me, I like you, though i disagree with some of your points occaisionally. (But I do with most others also, :) ) > > > If a non drug approach works, why not try that > > > first? > > > > Sure. But lots of people have tried lots of things and don't find > > relief until they try SSRI's. By 'a non-drug appraach", I am > guessing > > you don't really mean exercise, or counseling or herbs, or diet, or > > volunteer work, or more sleep, etc. but rather your solution of > > choice: Scientology. If you are suggesting that all people should > try > > scientology before SSRI's I find that amusing. > Man, all I'm saying is my experience is that the drugs don't help in > the long run. Fine, thats your POV and experience. it does not make it a universal truth. Again, I am not clear if you are referring to prescription drugs, street-rec drugs or both -- all of them, or just some of them. As cited above, I think many drugs do help in the short and long run. So we disagree a bit. But it would help communicatins if you were more specific on what drugs you are referring to. > ALL of the alternatives above sound good to me. I've > seen Dianetics work, so of course I favor it. Agenda? OK. I like > to > help people. Are you convinced that Scientology is a more effective alternative to "drugs", of whatever kind, to exercise, counseling, herbs, diet, doing seva /volunteer work, more sleep, hatha yoga, meditation, etc.? if so, more power to you, I have not seen the evidence. Personally I find people are more open to a menu of options not a single panacea solution. > If you don't like my brand of help, that's cool. I have seeen some wierd things in Scientology. Its not curently for me. But thanks. > 50 years ago people went to their Church or talked to a friend or > counsellor when they got depressed. Now millions take drugs. Is the world better off? Are they? Yes, much better off I believe. Talking doesn't resolve seretonin deficiencies. Nor any number of other maladies. > I want people to attain higher states of awareness. I think the > drugs hinder that. All drugs? Again you are generalizing so much its hard to see your point. Do you think SSRIs, aspirin, high blood pressure, cholesterol-lowering, birth control, anti-hisimine / allergy, vitamins, ayur-ved formulations, ganja taken in a sacred environment, are ALL bad for attaining higher states of awareness? I don't. So if you do, I wonder why, and wish you good luck with your worldview. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
