--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > There is a substantial group of the 'newly awakened' here 
writing 
> > > on FFL, willing to stick their necks out. How many of them are 
> > > still closely associated with the TMO? 
> > 
> > And there is a good reason for this.  If they had 
> > started having "good experiences" and tried to talk
> > about them within the TMO, what would have happened
> > to them?  Among the teachers, even the teachers of
> > so-called advanced techniques, there is no one who
> > has been trained to deal with such experiences.  In
> > the general milieu, the "We don't speak about our
> > experiences" dogma has been interpreted as "Anyone 
> > who does is delusional and should be put down and 
> > shunned."
> 
> In the contextof the TMO, anyone who discusses enlightenment 
> is "off the program"...

You need to be a little more precise.  The above 
statement is clearly not true.  It's fine to discuss
enlightenment as a concept, and to trot out the TM
dogma for what it is supposed to be.  But discuss 
your *own* experiences with enlightenment and you 
do run the risk of being declared "off the program."

Now the real question: do you see that as Ok?

Unc






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