--- In [email protected], anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We automatically call our "self" the most permanent set of things > > present in our mental landscape. For most, these include > personality, > > beliefs, habits, emotions, etc. When somone has 24/7 witnessing, the > > most permanent aspect of their existance is that 24/7 witnessing, so > > by "definition," that is their self. > > *** > By what "definition"? This presumes self to begin with. In other > words, someone experiencing a sense of self has uttered these words. > Contrast this with comments from Suzanne Segal such as: The mothering > function is happening. It is happening better than if there were a > mother. But there is no mother. She was referring to herself in > relation to her child. From an outsider's perspective, "she" was > obviously present, but she experienced no sense of a self.
Uttering words involves use of "definitions" unless you are claiming that someone who is enlightened has no intellect to help guide the chooice of words to utter. Notice I didn't say that the intellect guided their Self or something, though I suppose that this distinction isn't an issue at some point... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
