--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > On Jun 17, 2005, at 9:17 PM, akasha_108 wrote:
> > 
> > > Regardless, as I have understood it, Shantananda was asked to
step  down due to his lack of qualifications. Which he did. And his
successors have been banned from using the title Shankaracharaya. 
> His linneage does not appear to have much power or respect other
than  from the TMO.

> > I believe what you describe is accurate. The letter from one of
the Kaplans also mentions that M. had a particular Shankaracharya--who 
was not the real Shankaracharya--
 
> Who says? No-one disputes that Shantananda was Gurudev's oldest and 
> most favorite student amongthe Sanyasi.

I think people do dispute that. Swararoopa (sp) for one. 

Dana Sawyer -- a prof of Asian Studies, fluent n Hindi, and former
TMer, is a good, if not definitive source on this. He has interviewed
many directly on these issues, and had dug through original court
documents. He has had some of his comments posted here -- and they
should be in the archives. Perhaps Rick has copies in his personal
archives and can repost.
 
> that he sent students to. I am assuming he 
> > was referring to Shantananda and possibly his successor. So there 
> was   some deception going on regarding this trip.

 
> I see, so the courts agreeing that Swami Shantanada was the genuine 
> Shankaracharya should be ignored?

The current courts have rejected the current head of Shantananda's
lineage and have denied him use of the term Shankaracharaya. So your
reference to the courts I believe goes back to the 50's and is not
current. 

(And as i remember vaguely, the ealier court ruling was not as black
and white as you indicate.  The will was in dispute in that  SBS never
had it registered. It suddently appeared after his death. Suspicion
was that it was created or doctored up after the fact. Can you cite
the specific ruling you are referring to -- all its parts. ) 

None of the other Shankaracharayas will sit with the current personage
representing that linneage. And I believe they would not sit with
Shantananda or Vasu ...  Not being able to sit with the "quarum" of
Shankaracharayas is viewed as the ultimate rejection, in my
understanding. 

 
> > >
> > > But he was I sweet man I hear.
> > 
> > Yeah I heard many good stories and his writings are very nice.
> 
> So what is YOUR problem with Shantananda's "qualifications" if you 
> like what he writes? That he supprted MMY?

Lots of people can be very sweet, write nice things, but that does not 
necessarily qualify them to be Shankaracharaya. My understanding that
Shantananda was never viewed as qualified, but took on the seat,
similtaneously while another "candidate" also took over the seat, and
they fought it out in the courts for decades, with the recent decision
being the definitive one: denying the validity of the Shantananda
lineage.  And in time Shantananda agreed that he was not qualifed and
stepped down. Indeed he was alive for some years after he stepped down. 

 





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