--- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 6/19/05 2:08 AM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > --- In [email protected], cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >> --- In [email protected], Robert Gimbel 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>  
> >>> I'm not sure what Maharishi has said about the AUM sound;
> >>> 
> > 
> > 
> > OM is the first sound of creation, it contains all the energy in 
an
> > undifferentiated form that is later structured by the hymns of the
> > Vedas. So if you are living in a cave, using OM as a mantra, which
> > aligns one with the undifferentiated, is OK, since a cave dweller 
does
> > not need to function in society. But OM (used a mantra for 
meditation,
> > not just the occasional use in saying a prayer or whatever) is a
> > problem for a householder who needs to function in many 
differentiated
> > ways, that's why there are householder mantras (derived from the 
Rig
> > Veda). As far as ladies not using OM as a mantra, I have read a 
lot of
> > Vedic literature and I don't recall any (human) ladies following 
the
> > recluse path 
> 

> Ammachi, Shree Maa, Karunamayi, Mirabai, Mother Meera, etc. etc.


I will presume that none of these ladies are recluses since you are 
mentioning Ammachi first, and she is clearly not a recluse. Anyway, 
what happens today in India or since the beginning of the Kaliyuga is 
not relevant since this is not Vedic India. The Vedic literature does 
not indicate that ladies became recluses, except that sometimes a 
wife would accompany her husband when they abandoned householder life 
and went to live in the forest after their kids were grown up.


> > 
> > 
> > Maharishi on sanyasi mantra (OM):
> > 
> > http://www.trancenet.org/secrets/beacon/beacon2.shtml
> 

> Sounds reasonable but I know a lot of people who have been 
meditating with
> OM for years and are wealthy, successful, and happy. So I guess a 
controlled
> study is in order.






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