comments below please

--- In [email protected], "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> My question though is, if in enlightenment the Knower is 
> the "infinite" Self, no longer the "point" ego, which effectively 
> gets overridden (apart from its organizing functions), then you 
are 
> left with a Self and a perceiving body. There might well be an 
> experience of "Self in all beings/ all beings in Self" but how 
true 
> can that be if it remains exclusively linked to the 
original "point" 
> body and its perceptions? 

It isn't exclusively linked to anything. The Self is distinctly free 
from any sense of personal identification. It is perceived by the 
original 'point' body, but is not actually connected to it. It, the 
Self, exists by its Self. 

This has been my experience when I still my mind. All thoughts go 
away, and yet I can still perceive something else, pure 
consciousness, the Self. It is odd because it feels like me, but try 
as I might I can't locate the attachment point, through thought or 
the senses. 

Sometimes I will even imagine being attached to It just to satisfy 
some remnant of ego or habit, though when I focus on it, there is 
truly no attachment. It is like pressing on foam to leave an 
impression, and no matter how hard I press, there is no impression 
left.

<snip>  It would only be a true 
> cosmic Self if, moving from infinity to "point", it no longer is 
> exclusively linked to the original "point" body, since Self is 
> omnipresent, at every point. That would make it less "relative" 
than 
> before, since it would now be linked with an infinity of "points" 
of 
> perception. 

Exactly. 

Though I am unsure about the next step- how the perception of the 
Self begins to extend to everything else 'out there'. Conceptually, 
yes, but experientially, not yet constant.






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