Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM "grad school?"

[Llundrub]

> > If you are so sure that such a thing exists then you need to > supply us credulous dopes with at least a partial list of titles > of the teadhings so that we may ascertain for ourselve if such > teachings were ever committed to print. With all due respect, I don't "need" to do anything.  :-)     -------So you never need too go to the restroom? Or must due respect preceed that act before you respond as well ;)     My knowledge of such things comes primarily from my friend at Naropa.  The latest visiting Kempo is from a Tibetan monastery in Bhutan.  I will try to find out the particulars for you.  The teachings he gave there in Boulder, on his one- day stop, were in Tibetan, translated "on the fly" by exper- ienced translators there.     ------Strange we're discussing 'needed' things, and you raise 'the fly.' I *have* heard such teachings discussed among other Tibetan groups in Santa Fe, similarly oral.  To be honest, they were primarily discussed there in the Santa Fe sanghas as a curiosity, because no one had need of them.  :-)     -------My frend who is always wiser than myself is who raised the question to me about your friend. I bet my friend can beat your friend up. But she doesn't like getting into pissing matches. > My disbelief comes as a result of positing that there is such > a thing or its equivalent as CC in the Vajrayana.  That was my "mapping," trying to relate what my friend was writing to me into TM-speak.     --------Oh I'm sorry, I didn't get it. > For instance, the real analogy in the Vajrayana for enlightenment > would be ascertaining the Trikaya which would be much more like < Vedic Cognition. And this would be really just the start of clear > experience of shunyata. > > The only real thing I can think which might be like what you > mention was always freely available in the Madhiyatmikavatara, > and that is the description of the bhumis.  It is possible.  Everything I have heard about such teachings as my friend described in the past has been unfortunately second-hand.     -------My teachings were first hand, and then second head. That was fortunate. On my palms. > Of course in the Guhyagarbha there are a further five bhumis > pertaining to Dzogchen that are not considered in the Mahayana.  This Kempo is from the Dzogchen tradition.     --------Khenpo Lopon? It's a small world. > Does your friend suggest some other levels perhaps beyond these? He was remarkably unforthcoming on details.  I'll see if I can get him to be less so.  :-)     --------My friend came, but much later. > I laugh at your naivete. I see now why you were a TM teacher, > because you'll accept any fodder and sell it as high powered > gasoline for Ferraris. Just as I laugh at your consistent assumption that just because you personally haven't run into something, it doesn't exist.  :-)     --------He who laughs last laughs loudest. That's my last assumption that you'll ever have. :):) pUnc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.