--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > the greatest tragedy in the enlightenment soap opera are those who > > begin the road and then for whatever reason are unable to complete > enlightened_dawn11: > > > it, giving them a taste of supreme life but leaving them stranded > > between a world where spiritual life is dabbled in and the > > completion of a goal begun yet not finished. > > > This is not true for me.
sure. i was only talking about those for whom enlightenment is a serious goal, and for whatever reason they become derailed from their goal. if you choose to recast your goals and they have nothing to do with enlightenment, and that is a clear and joyful choice for you, that's perfect and wonderful imo. i was not suggesting anything about the path i spoke about except its dynamics as i have experienced them. Realizing that Maharishi's interpretation of > my yogic experiences was not only NOT the only one, but in my case, > the least useful understanding WAS my enlightenment. I don't share > your presuppositions about there being a "goal" in my life other than > the ones I create for myself. as i said, i wasn't talking about your life. In other words, my life is not caught > between any concepts of your own choices. My life is not defined by > how closely it matches the ideals you have set for your self and the > beliefs you have bought into from ancient traditions. > there are certain events that i see in my spiritual pursuits that mirror what i have earlier read or heard, but where this all ends up? i am as clueless as anyone else. the one way i know of to substantiate or discard any spiritual teaching is through direct experience. that's it. and one thing i enjoy so much about experience is it can be looked at from many many viewpoints. so it may be useful at one point for me to match my experience with those experiences codified in ancient traditions, and at other points find the distinct differences in my spiritual experiences from those in the ancient traditions, and at other times just reflect upon experience for its own sake.
