--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Nov 23, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
> 
> > Unfortunately the movement often pushed meditating when 
> > people should have stopped for a while because they were 
> > burning out.  Stopping would have allowed more progress.
> 
> A crucial but often missed insight.

Also, it is not to be overlooked that the *reason*
the only advice the TMO gave was "Something good is
happening" and "Keep meditating," or "Meditate more"
is that they had *no other advice to give*. There
was no mechanism in place (or even, as far as I 
could tell) with dealing with issues that commonly
arise among meditators.

The reason there was no such mechanism is that the
dogma promoted about TM (that it was "100% life
supporting" and could not *possibly* have any neg-
ative side effects) made it counter-intuitive to
have any remedy when those statements were proven
false.

The reason no such advice *would* have been offered
is that *everything* in the "meditator support"
arsenal was aimed at *keeping the meditator meditating*.
That was the "be all and end all* of the TM credo.
It would have been seen as heresy to suggest that
they stop the thing that seemed to be causing the
problems for a while, because everyone "knew" that
TM couldn't possibly be the cause. It must have
been something that the person having the issues
was doing "wrong."

Vaj, I, and several others here have been part of
groups that DID have effective means at their dis-
posal for dealing with issues that come up along the
spiritual path. The reason they had them is that they
had no dogma in place claiming that they "couldn't"
come up. And these means often worked to ease the
symptoms that people were experiencing, or to give
them a slightly different path to follow for a while.
(This also wasn't possible with TM because they 
really had only one product. They couldn't very well
tell a student to switch to walking meditation for
a while, or focus on selfless service for a while,
or just do something else; there *was* no "else."

Instead, the approach used by far too many TM teachers
was to do the Nabby thing and tell them to "get a 
checking," during which procedure it was clear that
the TM teacher had no interest in hearing what the
problem might actually be. Students were discouraged
from even talking about it. Instead, it was assumed
that the magical checking procedure would fix what-
ever it was that *the student* was doing "wrong."



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