--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 24, 2005, at 5:37 PM, t3rinity wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Tantric mantras manifest in the dimension beyond mind in certain > >> adepts > >> throughout history. That dimension of visionary enjoyment manifests in > >> a specific way--through sound, light and rays. The "sound" aspect is > >> the mantra of that dimension. The idea is that we can reintegrate > >> with > >> that dimension and recapture the enlightenment it's receiver achieved > >> in that dimension. > > > > Total BS in my opinion. > > I'm guessing you've never been initiated properly into a tantra
You are guessing too much.. > --this > is the primary principle of transmission. I certainly received transmission and receive it all the time. You seemed to make a statement about Tantric mantras in general. Not one person can even make the same experience twice. In TM the mantras which are tantric, are to be transcended. Your statement implies a certain well defined goal for a mantra directly created by the conceiver of that mantra. Thats a limitation that I don't accept. Obviously mantras can be used in many ways. > > This would mean that no progress could ever be > > made. You would be only repeating the experinces of people in the > > past. Second hand experience. > > Each person is different (in case you hadn't noticed) and no of course > that's not what this means. Being are constantly liberated from tantric > transmission. >From tantric transmission or by tantric transmission or both? > > Btw. this is not Surat Shabd Yoga. > > What on earth are you talking about? See the follow up of matrix-monitor. I was referring to the light/sound thing you mentioned. Surat Shabda Yoga is a typical meditation which focuses on light and sound. Opposed to that in a technique like TM there is no focus on light and sound. They are different techniques besides the fact that they both use mantras. In my eyes you are narrowing down the way mantras can be used, in making such 'matter of fact statements' about mantras. Its rubbish. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
