--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > on 6/25/05 9:30 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Jun 25, 2005, at 10:19 PM, sparaig wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >>>>> Not quite that simple :-) In the final
> > stages it is possible 
> > to
> > > >>>>> "transcend" for four hours at a time,
> > effortlessly. One sits
> > > >> down,
> > > >>>>> decides how long they will meditate and
> > finishes when they 
> > intend
> > > >>>> to.
> > > >>>> 
> > > >>>> And you have documentation of this?
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> Well yes, the text themselves, but more
> > important are good oral
> > > >>> instructions.
> > > >> 
> > > >> I meant proof that this is what happens...
> > > > 
> > > > Yeah besides being a long known and practiced
> > phenomenon in many 
> > of the
> > > > eastern schools, there has been some scientific
> > research going on 
> > with
> > > > this for quite some time. The Dalai Lama has
> > been meeting with 
> > leading
> > > > scientists for years on subjects like these.
> > > 
> > > Can the Dalai Lama himself do this sort of thing?
> > What is his 
> > degree of
> > > spiritual attainment? As you know, Maharishi has
> > derided him as "a
> > > politician," implying superficiality. It would be
> > interesting to 
> > hear the
> > > real story.
> > 
> > And how would you know that it is the real story?
> > Does the Dali Lama 
> > hook himself up to EEG machines for scientists to
> > look at?
> 
> And why do you assume an EEG machine would validate
> the depth of one's spirituality? 
> 
> 
> 

Ah sorry, didn't realize that we'd stopped talking about scientific 
research...




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