Since it appears that JohnR is not going to 
respond to my challenge with his analysis of
my friend's medical condition as indicated in
her Jyotish chart, and I want to finish up my
participation in all existing threads on FFL
before the new year starts, I will post the 
answer. 

( It goes without saying that any subsequent 
attempts by JohnR or any other Jyotishi to 
say, "Oh, I saw that in the chart, but I was 
just late in posting my response" should be 
greeted with howls of derisive laughter. :-)

The medical issue my friend is dealing with is
called being pregnant.

Other than that simple and fairly common medical 
issue, she is 100% healthy. Her doctors, both 
allopathic and from the world of alternative 
medicine, believe that she will have a normal 
home birth, but just in case, arrangements have 
been made by the midwives at a nearby hospital 
in case she requires surgery. We all hope that 
isn't necessary.

Below is the text I sent to the FFL moderators.
The only thing I changed in it was to delete 
my friend's last name (for privacy, and to keep 
stalkers away from her) and to insert the word 
"best" in front of "friend," because she really 
is my best friend. I'm heading off in a few min-
utes to spend the rest of the year with her, 
even though that'll only be five hours. :-)

Had JohnR analyzed the chart and posted that he 
"found" indicators of disease, that would have 
been partly because I described her condition as 
a medical issue. Well, duh, it is. Giving birth 
IS a medical issue, and never a 100% safe one. 
But IMO the only reason he would have "found" 
indicators of disease in her chart would have been 
because *he was looking for them*, and projecting 
them onto a chart in which they did not appear. 

Similarly, when Judy and Raunchydog accused me 
of violating my friend's privacy by making her 
medical condition public, they were *looking for 
things to demonize me with*, and projecting them 
onto the situation in the form of the bogus 
"privacy" straw man. Please join me in laughing 
at their attempts to portray me as a Bad Guy for 
violating my friend's "medical privacy." It's 
hard to *miss* the medical condition of someone 
who is eight and a half months pregnant; keeping 
it private is just not an option unless you are
wearing a tent. :-)

The original letter to the FFL moderators follows,
in case someone actually wants them to confirm that 
this is what I sent to them earlier. As noted 
above, the only thing in it I have changed is to 
delete my friend's last name out of concern that 
one or more TBs here would start stalking her the 
same way that they stalk me and Vaj and Paul Mason 
and John Knapp and others who have dared to be 
critical of TM or its ludicrous "extra added cost" 
products like Jyotish. 

I still think that this would have been an interest-
ing test, if JohnR had had the cojones to respond
to it. But he didn't. I think that speaks for itself
about the depth of *his* belief in the accuracy and
efficacy of Jyotish.

But the interesting test that DID take place was 
how a few TM True Believers here responded to the 
idea of Jyotish being put to the test. If John's
lack of a response speaks volumes, theirs fills
libraries.

Happy New Year,

Unc/Turq/Barry


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Sent to Rick, Alex, and gullible_fool:

As mentioned on FFL, I am challenging JohnR to
use the birth data below to pinpoint the nature
of the medical condition that my friend is deal-
ing with. 

The birth data:

Born: Suffern, New York, USA
September 18, 1965 18:06 (6:06 p.m.)

The person, and their medical condition:

This is the birth data for my best friend Laurel,
who is very, very pregnant and about to give birth.
Both medical doctors and alternative care providers
have assured her that all is perfectly fine with
the pregnancy, and that there is no danger to either
mother or (soon) daughter. A normal birth is planned,
but as I said there is the possibility of required
surgery if things don't go as planned.

As I understand Jyotish, *if it works* John should 
have no problem with noticing this medical condition 
in her chart, even if I did not specify the sex of
the person. In fact another Jyotish practitioner 
DID, in fact, predict the pregnancy from her chart
a year before it happened. She wasn't trying to
get pregnant.



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