Read #2 funny huh?
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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: TM and Buddhism (per Mantreshwar, ancient jyotishi)
From: "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
2. Re: A Warrior Ascended Master on Maharishi
From: "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
3. Re: Pundit News
From: bbrigante
4. Re: Pundit News
From: bbrigante
5. Re: Pundit News
From: off_world_beings
6. Re: A Warrior Ascended Master on Maharishi
From: off_world_beings
7. Re: TM and Buddhism (per Mantreshwar, ancient jyotishi)
From: TurquoiseB
8. Re: A Warrior Ascended Master on Maharishi
From: TurquoiseB
9. Re: A Warrior Ascended Master on Maharishi
From: TurquoiseB
10. "President Needs Troops to say: "Yes Sir"...'
From: Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
11. 'Coming Soon -" Revelations of 9/11"
From: Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12. Re: Kill the Buddha...
From: TurquoiseB
13. The joys of unthreaded reading...
From: TurquoiseB
14. Re: 'Coming Soon -" Revelations of 9/11"
From: "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
15. Swami Vishwananda Southern California Tour
From: t3rinity
16. Re: Swami Vishwananda Southern California Tour
From: t3rinity
17. Re: Swami Vishwananda Southern California Tour
From: t3rinity
18. Re:'Coming Soon -" Revelations of 9/11"
From: Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
19. Re: 'Coming Soon -" Revelations of 9/11"
From: TurquoiseB
20. Re: Kill the Buddha...
From: "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21. Re: The joys of unthreaded reading...
From: "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
22. Re:Re: Pundit News
From: Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
23. Re: 'Coming Soon -" Revelations of 9/11"
From: "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24. Designer Genes: celibacy as a genetically dumb idea
From: TurquoiseB
25. Re:Designer Genes: celibacy as a genetically dumb idea
From: Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 03:50:00 -0000
From: "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TM and Buddhism (per Mantreshwar, ancient jyotishi)
--- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > I think your one-up-manship is perfect, because it is who you are,
> its
> > your nature -- to see as far as you can see.
>
> Cool, I can live with that :-)
Thanks again! Very tasty with fava beans and a nice chianti.
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 03:50:13 -0000
From: "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A Warrior Ascended Master on Maharishi
---This is typical of a perception, that Maharishi is somehow above
being human; with his personal preferences, desires and growth.
Do you know anyone who is exactly the same, now, as they were in
1993?
Didn't think so..
In [email protected], Ascended Masters
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Gentle Souls,
>
> It is time for you to understand something about Maharishi. He who
> you all love and revere so much left that body in 1993. That great
> soul was worn out. He was drawn back to his beloved Guru Dev. He
> rests. Sent to continue was another like him, and that is who now
> resides in Maharishi's body.
>
> Have you not noticed subtle differences in personality and focus?
The
> new Maharishi is also a great warrior, completely fearless and
bold in
> taking on the dark forces face to face. But some anger, some less
> heart value is also there. We did not expect this Maharishi to
take
> such extremes in gathering wealth. Prices are too high, donations
> going down the drain. It has hurt overall purpose of spreading
> Enlightenment. Support of nature has to be withdrawn little bit
> because of this excess. You have seen, projects are not working
now?
> Laudable desires for humankind not fulfilled?
>
> Like that we have not been able to give full support anymore. This
> Maharishi is fighting like no one has ever fought before. His is
> expert at seeing, pinpointing exactly the disguise, the plans of
the
> demons, the dragon. There is great value in this. Listen to what
he
> says. But your love, your devotion, let that stay at the lotus
feet
> of your Guru Dev and earlier memory of Maharishi, who you knew
before.
> He was more sweet.
>
> It may be difficult for you to accept this because you are not
used to
> the fluidity of souls, having been taught that even spirituality
is a
> scientific, practical matter. But, truth is, heart is unbounded.
> Anything can happen...
>
> A Warrior Ascended Master
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 05:05:30 -0000
From: bbrigante
Subject: Re: Pundit News
--- In [email protected], Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Did they pay you a Brahmin salary? :)
>
> Sal
>
$50/month and all the respect that implies.
>
> On Jun 27, 2005, at 9:44 PM, bbrigante wrote:
>
> > While I was working as a cook at MIU, Administrator Susan
Humphrey
> > used to make an occasional appearance in the kitchen and tell us
what
> > high-status folks we were, since cooks were Brahmins in India
(since
> > the other three castes can eat food prepared by Brahmins, cooks
tend
> > to be Brahmins in India) -- good for a laugh in that dump.
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 05:12:51 -0000
From: bbrigante
Subject: Re: Pundit News
--- In [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In a message dated 6/27/05 9:44:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> I just recalled that Brahmins in India do not eat food prepared by
> members of other castes if possible, and since the pundits are
> Brahmins, they'll want Brahmin cooks. But they are going to have a
> battle with the State Dept over this issue, I'll bet (since the
cooks
> are at least as poor as the pundits and don't qualify for U.S.
visas,
> and the State Dept clerks in India probably are not concerned
about
> caste issues and would just say that MUM should hire people who
can
> read recipes to prepare Indian food -- the pundit kitchen is not a
> gourmet restaurant that requires superstars of Indian cooking),
and
> this issue of visas for cooks certainly could not have been news
all
> this two years that they have been planning this (non-) event.
>
>
>
> They could get Brahmin cooks in without any difficulty. Indian
restaurants
> bring in Brahmin cooks all the time here.
*************
Fancy Indian restaurants bring in expert gourmet cooks from India,
just like other ethnic gourmet restaurants bring in name cooks who
are specialists in a particular cuisine -- for instance, sushi chefs
from Japan are brought in to work in pricey restaurants in the USA.
However, the cooks who are working for the pundits now are not making
the money they would be making if they were working in high-end
restaurants in India, and so they are not eligible for visas (and
that is exactly what Bob Wynne is saying, that the cooks that the
pundits need can't get into the country). If the pundits wanted to
hire a chef from the Delhi Hilton because of his expertise in Hindu
cuisine, they could do it, but they would have to pay a competitive
salary (and top chefs can make big bucks), and they would also have
to go through the process of first trying to hire Indian chefs
already here in the United States before they could hire somebody
from India -- that's the way immigration works. There are Indians
working in the restaurants in Fairfield, but they did not get here
because they were recruited by the scenario I just desribed, but
because they are relatives of people who have legal permission to
live in the USA -- relatives have priority in getting entry into the
U.S.
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 05:16:27 -0000
From: off_world_beings
Subject: Re: Pundit News
> >
> Kirk (Llundrub) unsubscribed this morning. >>>
Jeez, what did I say? I just turned up this morning. He doesn't like
me :-(
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 05:20:21 -0000
From: off_world_beings
Subject: Re: A Warrior Ascended Master on Maharishi
They have internet in the crazy houses these days? Wow, what a world.
--- In [email protected], Ascended Masters
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Gentle Souls,
>
> It is time for you to understand something about Maharishi. He who
> you all love and revere so much left that body in 1993. That great
> soul was worn out. He was drawn back to his beloved Guru Dev. He
> rests. Sent to continue was another like him, and that is who now
> resides in Maharishi's body.
>
> Have you not noticed subtle differences in personality and focus?
The
> new Maharishi is also a great warrior, completely fearless and
bold in
> taking on the dark forces face to face. But some anger, some less
> heart value is also there. We did not expect this Maharishi to
take
> such extremes in gathering wealth. Prices are too high, donations
> going down the drain. It has hurt overall purpose of spreading
> Enlightenment. Support of nature has to be withdrawn little bit
> because of this excess. You have seen, projects are not working
now?
> Laudable desires for humankind not fulfilled?
>
> Like that we have not been able to give full support anymore. This
> Maharishi is fighting like no one has ever fought before. His is
> expert at seeing, pinpointing exactly the disguise, the plans of
the
> demons, the dragon. There is great value in this. Listen to what
he
> says. But your love, your devotion, let that stay at the lotus
feet
> of your Guru Dev and earlier memory of Maharishi, who you knew
before.
> He was more sweet.
>
> It may be difficult for you to accept this because you are not
used to
> the fluidity of souls, having been taught that even spirituality
is a
> scientific, practical matter. But, truth is, heart is unbounded.
> Anything can happen...
>
> A Warrior Ascended Master>>>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 05:45:07 -0000
From: TurquoiseB
Subject: Re: TM and Buddhism (per Mantreshwar, ancient jyotishi)
--- In [email protected], anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Agreed. Concepts are useful tools. I see arguing over
> > who invented/discovered the concept as a little
> > fruitless unless you're working on your doctoral
> > dissertation. Then by all means split the split of the
> > split of the split of the hair.
>
> Barber school doctorate? Hari hari. Is Ron the Barber a professor
> there?
Ron the barber. Now there's a flash from the past.
What course was Ron the barber on? Mallorca-Fiuggi?
Unc
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 06:10:56 -0000
From: TurquoiseB
Subject: Re: A Warrior Ascended Master on Maharishi
--- In [email protected], off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> They have internet in the crazy houses these days? Wow, what
> a world.
It's considered therapy, the modern counterpart of
group analysis. :-)
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 06:28:07 -0000
From: TurquoiseB
Subject: Re: A Warrior Ascended Master on Maharishi
--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], off_world_beings
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > They have internet in the crazy houses these days? Wow, what
> > a world.
>
> It's considered therapy, the modern counterpart of
> group analysis. :-)
The thing you should be wondering about, however, is
not how someone in a crazy house gets access to the
Internet, but how an "Ascended Master" gets access
to the Internet. Are we talking ether-net here?
Are there little cozy Internet cafe termninals
nestled in the clouds? Do the Ascended Masters
need terminals and keyboards or do they just think
their messages and press their noses to Send? And
if you're an Ascended Master, do you cruise the
Internet during your "off time," or is spamming
the Net part of your day job? Either way, what's
the pay scale these days for an Ascended Master? Do
you get benefits, like dental, or a uniform (long
flowing robes and a crown)? Are there Ascended
Master groupies?
The mind boggles at the possibilities. At least we
finally have one of these Ascended Masters in our
midst. Perhaps he/she/it (Do Ascended Masters *have*
a sex? If so, do they have sex with other he/she/its?)
can answer the questions for us...
Unc
P.S. And what's a "Warrior Ascended Master?" Are
you telling us that the caste system persists even
after death? "Whooops...not over there, Newbie. That
cloud is reserved for the Brahmin Ascended Masters.
The Khshatriya Ascended Master cloud is over there,
on the other side of the tracks..."
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 00:37:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "President Needs Troops to say: "Yes Sir"...'
It's no accident that President Bush needs a captive and disciplined group
for his speech.
Otherwise he might get a few annoying questions,
As our press becomes more Bold in it's reporting...
R. Gimbel Seattle, WA.
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 01:12:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 'Coming Soon -" Revelations of 9/11"
Subject: FW: [NESARA CANADA] St Germain - The Truth will out, 25th June
2005- The tide of evidence against the perpetrators of 9/11 is gathering
momentum, and no amount of threats against those that hold
compelling stories will keep them from coming into the public
domain. It is no thanks to your media and this is why in the near
future they will have to change. They have a duty to report and
investigate the truth, and not be involved in censorship of matters
of vital interest and importance. Censorship and outright cover ups
>are not what is expected in a free society. The dam of lies and
>denial of the truth is breaking up, and soon the pressure from
>people to have matters addressed will cause a massive explosion of
>facts surrounding the truth. Already more evidence is coming to
>light and the protection placed around those who were guilty of the
>acts of atrocity is now paper thin.
>
>There is no longer any escape for those guilty ones, who had hoped
>to bury the truth with the remains of the Twin Towers. Through their
>arrogance and belief in their own infallibility they are about to
>fall flat on their faces. One of the most audacious and evil attacks
>on the people cannot be buried by the official version of the truth.
>Many souls are pondering their part in the cover up, and their
>conscience is at odds with their actions. The truth is like new
>shoots pushing their way up through the slime and dirt, and breaking
>forth into the light. Once this break through occurs, there is no
>stopping its quickening growth.
>
>When a government has shown itself to have no regard for the
>sanctity of life, and its treasonous acts are against their own
>people, it is time for a showdown. We help those brave souls that
>stand forth at no small risk to themselves, as you have pleaded with
>us for the truth to be allowed to come out. There are thousands of
>people who were touched by the murder of their loved ones, and they
>rightfully demand to have answers to their questions. The pain,
>sorrow and anguish will not go away until those guilty ones are
>brought to account for their actions. All through your history those
>in power have used people like pawns on a chessboard, and have not
>looked beyond their own greed and selfishness. Power and money are
>two hypnotic ingredients in the quest for control over other people.
>
>People under oath for security reasons are now questioning their
>allegiance, and once the main culprits responsible for 9/11 are
>apprehended they will feel free to give their evidence. So much
>depends on events that are now in progress, and a delicate operation
>is in hand to provide the means to once and for all remove your last
>cabal. This action is planned to ensure that a halt is brought to
>warlike preparations that already exist to extend the activities in
>the Middle East. This one action will bring the release of the
>people from the express train of death and oblivion, and it will be
>halted in its tracks. The Light of peace will shine all over the
>world, and for the first time in recorded history there will be
>total peace.
>
>You cannot have peace where there is chaos and confusion, and this
>is why our actions are designed to bring changes in a specific way
>so as to avoid it. It has been a long time since you first reached
>that point of conscious awareness that you had the power to bring
>about changes yourself. You have realized that you are not simply
>subject to the authority of those in power, that there is a higher
>one to which you have your allegiance and no one can take that away
>from you. Those in power have normally obtained their position
>through your grace and should honor it by fully representing you. If
>they do not honor and serve you, it is perfectly correct for you to
>have them removed. Government is for the people, and not to provide
>exalted positions for those in power so that they may use it against
>you.
>
>We know what is required to bring in the changes that will see a
>fair and just distribution of your wealth. We know that many
>draconian laws need to be removed to restore your freedom and
>sovereignty. All is in preparation and ready to be instigated, and
>our strength and forces of good are primed and eager to bring you
>the changes that are necessary. It might be unthinkable that anyone
>would stand in the way of changes for the better, but those who are
>very materialistic and self centered are reluctant to give up their
>exalted positions. In a fair and just society there is no room for
>the aggrandizement of the few who hold wealth way beyond their needs
>at the expense of others. The distinctions that are made between
>people that are based upon their wealth will disappear, and equality
>and respect will be the order of the day.
>
>I am St. Germain and I want you to understand that your needs are
>fully understood. The loose ends of Karma are being played out, and
>it will not be long now before it will be the right time to bring
>this period to a close. The change over to one of freedom from your
>past will happen very quickly, and you will see the benefits quite
>rapidly, and these will embrace the whole world. There will be a
>wonderful coming together of all people, in a new found trust and
>friendship, and you will truly become One. As always a great Love
>and Light is with you, and you may draw upon it for your needs.
>
>/Thank you St. Germain/
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 08:31:52 -0000
From: TurquoiseB
Subject: Re: Kill the Buddha...
> > What I always figured: If you meet the Buddha
> > on the road, it means you perceive Buddha to
> > be other than yourself. You can't realize your
> > own Buddha nature until you "kill" Buddha-as-Other.
> >
> > Probably not the only way to understand it, though.
>
> Very well said, Judy; nothing to add save that my version would
> probably be "kill him and EAT him" just to make the reabsorption
> process a little clearer :-)
This is actually the basis of a famous koan posed
by the 17th Karmapa. He posed the question to his
students thusly, as recorded verbatim by one of the
scribes in attendance: "When you meet the Buddha on
the road, and fry him up and eat him, does the
resulting Buddha-burger have Buddha-nature? Burp."
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 08:34:20 -0000
From: TurquoiseB
Subject: The joys of unthreaded reading...
I've read with some fascination the discussions about Yahoo
and whether it handles threads properly or doesn't, but for
me the whole thing isn't really an issue. I understand that
many people are busy, and would like to be able to focus on
only the threads and subjects that interest them,
For me, however, reading FFL is recreation, something I do
for my own enjoyment, and reading the posts sequentially, on
the Yahoo website, actually adds to my enjoyment. I can even
come up with a pseudo-intellectual reason why. :-)
When I was studying with the Rama guy, there was a lot of
emphasis on career as part of one's spiritual sadhana. And
he pointed a number of us in the direction of a particular
field of computer science, relational database. His reason
for this (besides the fact that it paid well) was that in his
view working with relational databases was very much like the
Tibetan practices we used to perform in previous incarnations.
In those practices, a teacher would hold up a thangka painting
of an elaborate, incredibly intricate mandala. The student
would get to gaze at it for only a minute or so. And then the
student was sent away to visualize the mandala until he could
see it in his mind *exactly* as it appeared in the painting.
To some extent, working with relational database is like that.
There are all these tables, sometimes thousands of them. In
a big, distributed database, sometimes tens of thousands of
them. Each table contains data elements, which are related to
each other and to other data elements in other tables in num-
erous ways. And to be able to work effectively with such a
database, you really have to be able to construct a mental
picture of the entire database in your mind, visualize it.
That, to some extent, is why I like to read FFL unthreaded.
I just read each post in the order in which it arrived at the
Yahoo server. It's all a big jumble of data, written by
different people about different subjects and from completely
different points of view. And the task of "threading" it, or
making sense of it all and determining what the relationships
are between these different posts becomes your *own* task,
not the task of the software.
It works for me, because I like this place and I like the
people here and I like putting things together in my own way.
Some people may not see a relationship between a post dealing
with computer technology and another post dealing with the
best way to prepare and eat the Buddha when you meet him on
the road and another post that seems to have originated from
one of the Ascended Masters. There probably *is* no real
relationship between these different subjects, and between
the people who wrote about them, but I always manage to
find one.
The bottom line for me is that real life isn't "threaded."
You have to deal with things as they arise and organize them
in your mind as best you can. For me, Fairfield Life is
better appreciated the same way. Your mileage may vary...
Unc
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:04:51 -0000
From: "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 'Coming Soon -" Revelations of 9/11"
--- In [email protected], Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Subject: FW: [NESARA CANADA] St Germain - The Truth will out, 25th
June 2005- The tide of evidence against the perpetrators of 9/11 is
gathering
> momentum, and no amount of threats against those that hold
> compelling stories will keep them from coming into the public
> domain....
...Are you sure it isn't already? Thierry Meyssan,
senior journalist of "Le Monde", wrote a best selling
book:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/september11/story/0,11209,677112,00.html
Maybe there are new allegations but M. Meyssan's are
sufficient to give a few Republicans a nose bleed.
Uns.
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:21:19 -0000
From: t3rinity
Subject: Swami Vishwananda Southern California Tour
I met Visham about 3 yrs ago here in Germany. He is a young Mauritian
Indian. He came to Mother Meera a few times. If you can meet him,I
would recommend. Especially if you can get a private interview.
see his page: http://www.vishwananda.us
Events:http://www.vishwananda.us/events.html (the background-image
takes ages toload,and the text is all white. select the text to see
it) I copied it in here for you. I know a lot of people who are
absolutely sold out to him.He has a very nice personality. His darshan
style is sort of like Ammaji,with bhajans, but he puts a bindu at your
forehead.I think it's his first public appearance in the US.
Directions:http://home.flash.net/~aldersgt/map/map.htm
Sri Swami Vishwananda
Welcome Welcome Welcome
All are welcome to attend
US Events:
Sri Swami Vishwananda's Southern California Tour
July 2-24, 2005
Current as of May 13, 2005
City Date &
Time Program Location
Pacific Palisades,
CA. July 1-7, 2005 Retreat July 1-7 2005
A limited amount of reasonably priced accommodations are available, to
include bed, daily meals, morning puja, yoga, evening aarti, and
entrance to all public events. During the retreat the Burge Chapel
will be open to the public for meditation from 9-6 daily. Except
during public programs, the retreat center is only open to
retreatants.
For further information please send an email.
Click here to send mail Aldersgate Retreat Center
Directions
Pacific Palisades,
CA. July 2 2-6 pm Everyone is invited to a reception welcoming Swami
Vishwananda. Enjoy satsang, kirtan and darshan. Music featuring Larisa
Stow and Gathering Guru. Free to the public. All are invited to
attend. Aldersgate Retreat Center
Directions
Pacific Palisades,
CA. July 3
7-10 pm A public program with satsang, kirtan and darshan. Music
featuring The Temple Bhajan Band. All are invited to attend. Suggested
donation: $15
To register please email your interest in this program Aldersgate
Retreat Center
Directions
Pacific Palisades,
CA. July 4
2-5 pm A Yagna will be held. Free to the public. All are invited to
attend Aldersgate Retreat Center
Directions
Pacific Palisades,
CA. July 5
2-6 pm A limited number of private interviews with Swamiji are
available.
For further information please email your interest in this program
Aldersgate Retreat Center
Directions
Pacific Palisades,
CA. July 6
7-10 pm A public program with satsang, kirtan and darshan. Music
featuring Geoffrey Gordan and friends. All are invited to attend.
Suggested donation: $15.
For further information please email your interest in this program
Aldersgate Retreat Center
Directions
Ojai
CA.
July 8
2-6 pm A limited number of private interviews with Swamiji are
available.
For further information please email your interest in this program
Home of Sunne Justice and Dermit Doherty, 412 S. Pueblo Ave, Ojai, CA
93023
Ojai
CA. July 9
7-10 pm A public program with satsang, kirtan and darshan. Music
featuring Larisa Stow and Gathering Guru. All are invited to attend.
Suggested donation: $15.
For further information please email your interest Home of Sunne
Justice and Dermit Doherty, 412 S. Pueblo Ave, Ojai, CA 93023
Encinitas
CA July 11
2-6 pm A limited number of private interviews with Swamiji are
available.
For further information please email your interest in this program
Best Western at Moonlight Beach, 85 Encinitas Blvd., Encinitas, CA
92024
Encinitas
CA July 12
7-10 pm A public program with satsang, kirtan and darshan. All are
invited to attend. Suggested donation: $15. Best Western at Moonlight
Beach, 85 Encinitas Blvd., Encinitas, CA 92024
Palm Springs
CA July 15
2-6 pm A limited number of private interviews with Swamiji are
available.
For further information please email your interest in this program
Home of Craig Robinson, 55 Marbella Ave., Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
Palm Springs
CA July 16
7-10 pm A public program with satsang, kirtan and darshan. Music
featuring The Temple Bhajan Band. All are invited to attend. Suggested
donation: $15. Rancho Las Palmas C. C., Mirage Room, 42-000 Bob Hope
Drive, Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
Canoga Park,
CA. July 21
7-10 pm Guru Purnima Celebration. A public program with satsang,
kirtan and darshan. Music featuring Larisa Stow and Gathering Guru.
All are invited to attend. Suggested donation: $20.
For further information please email your interest Holman Hall, 6740
Variel , Canoga Park, CA 91303.
Marina del Rey,
CA July 24
5-8 pm A public program with satsang, kirtan and darshan. Music
featuring The Temple Bhajan Band, with a delicious vegetarian feast
from Govinda's to follow. All are invited to attend. Suggested
donation: $20. To order enough food, please email your interest
here. Marina del Rey Hotel, 13534 Bali Way, Marina del Rey, CA 90292
For further information on any of these events please call
877.SWAMIJI
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:26:39 -0000
From: t3rinity
Subject: Re: Swami Vishwananda Southern California Tour
Also the email contact on the webpage sucks;
use this copied from the source:
r e t r e a t <AT> v i s h w a n a n d a <DOT> u s
Remove the spaces between the letters
> For further information on any of these events please call
> 877.SWAMIJI
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:40:46 -0000
From: t3rinity
Subject: Re: Swami Vishwananda Southern California Tour
--- In [email protected], t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Also the email contact on the webpage sucks;
> use this copied from the source:
> r e t r e a t <AT> v i s h w a n a n d a <DOT> u s
>
> Remove the spaces between the letters
> > For further information on any of these events please call
> > 877.SWAMIJI
Some Bio: http://www.vishwananda.org/swami.html
Shri Swami Vishwananda was born in 1978 in a Hindu family, on the
Island of Mauritius. At that time, he was given the name 'Visham'.
>From an early age he showed a keen interest in Spirituality.
At the age of 15, He went into/experienced the state of Samadhi
(meaning: experiencing intense union and direct communion with God).
>From that day forth he has dedicated himself to the spiritual
upliftment and transformation of mankind by guiding people to focus on
love and forgiveness, through Patience and Unity to reveal and
experience our Divine Reality.
Shri Swami Vishwananda started off his mission by erecting a temple in
Rose-Hill which is his place of birth - with this followed a calendar
of spiritual activities to be accomplished: Volunteers heartily
co-ordinated projects at both the Spiritual Level and Community
Service level which included Human Moral Value Classes for children
and adults, Study Circles, devotional singing, support and visits to
orphanages and homes for the aged, blood donations and the
organisation of multi-faith programmes. In 2002 Swami Vishwananda also
constructed a 'Shirdi Sai Baba Temple' in Quatre-Bornes, Mauritius,
where daily spiritual activities are carried out all year round. These
activities amongst other programs are personally led by Swami whenever
he is in residence.
Shri Swami Vishwananda embraces all religious paths, all cultures and
all races. He has a deep affinity with Jesus Christ, Shri Shirdi Sai
Baba* and Mahavatar Kriya Babaji*. He says, "There have been many
misquotations and misunderstandings of what Jesus actually said. His
true message is a message of love and acceptance, not of criticizing
and condemning others."
Swami Vishwananda, his name signifies "The Bliss of the Universe": is
here to uplift, inspire, and help people realise the 'Divine Light'
that resides within themselves. He says: "you have to look within
yourself, and not outside, for God is within each one of us as Love."
Sri Swami Vishwananda is therefore here to bring the message of Love
to everyone and will travel "wherever God sends him".
Swami Vishwananda is not looking for disciples, He says, "I do not
want people to depend on me, depend on the God/Guru within you. It is
a great miracle that God, the Divine Self, is within you. The Divine
Spark is within all equally, but only those who realise this are
awakened. When realisation comes, the veil of illusion drops. God is
always here, like the sun shining through a window. It is we who
choose to draw the curtains. God has given me the blessing that I can
uplift people spiritually and bring them to God realisation, which is
to realise God within. God does not have a form, but He or She is
within each one of us as Love.
Today Swami is providing help to people in various parts of the world
such as Mauritius, South Africa, Kenya, France, Italy, Switzerland,
Germany, England and Wales.
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 04:29:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:'Coming Soon -" Revelations of 9/11"
St. Germain? I didn't know he was so interested in
9/11. Saints are so curious with or without bodies.
--- Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Subject: FW: [NESARA CANADA] St Germain - The Truth
> will out, 25th June 2005- The tide of evidence
> against the perpetrators of 9/11 is gathering
> momentum, and no amount of threats against those
> that hold
> compelling stories will keep them from coming into
> the public
> domain. It is no thanks to your media and this is
> why in the near
> future they will have to change. They have a duty
> to report and
> investigate the truth, and not be involved in
> censorship of matters
> of vital interest and importance. Censorship and
> outright cover ups
> >are not what is expected in a free society. The dam
> of lies and
> >denial of the truth is breaking up, and soon the
> pressure from
> >people to have matters addressed will cause a
> massive explosion of
> >facts surrounding the truth. Already more evidence
> is coming to
> >light and the protection placed around those who
> were guilty of the
> >acts of atrocity is now paper thin.
> >
> >There is no longer any escape for those guilty
> ones, who had hoped
> >to bury the truth with the remains of the Twin
> Towers. Through their
> >arrogance and belief in their own infallibility
> they are about to
> >fall flat on their faces. One of the most audacious
> and evil attacks
> >on the people cannot be buried by the official
> version of the truth.
> >Many souls are pondering their part in the cover
> up, and their
> >conscience is at odds with their actions. The truth
> is like new
> >shoots pushing their way up through the slime and
> dirt, and breaking
> >forth into the light. Once this break through
> occurs, there is no
> >stopping its quickening growth.
> >
> >When a government has shown itself to have no
> regard for the
> >sanctity of life, and its treasonous acts are
> against their own
> >people, it is time for a showdown. We help those
> brave souls that
> >stand forth at no small risk to themselves, as you
> have pleaded with
> >us for the truth to be allowed to come out. There
> are thousands of
> >people who were touched by the murder of their
> loved ones, and they
> >rightfully demand to have answers to their
> questions. The pain,
> >sorrow and anguish will not go away until those
> guilty ones are
> >brought to account for their actions. All through
> your history those
> >in power have used people like pawns on a
> chessboard, and have not
> >looked beyond their own greed and selfishness.
> Power and money are
> >two hypnotic ingredients in the quest for control
> over other people.
> >
> >People under oath for security reasons are now
> questioning their
> >allegiance, and once the main culprits responsible
> for 9/11 are
> >apprehended they will feel free to give their
> evidence. So much
> >depends on events that are now in progress, and a
> delicate operation
> >is in hand to provide the means to once and for all
> remove your last
> >cabal. This action is planned to ensure that a halt
> is brought to
> >warlike preparations that already exist to extend
> the activities in
> >the Middle East. This one action will bring the
> release of the
> >people from the express train of death and
> oblivion, and it will be
> >halted in its tracks. The Light of peace will shine
> all over the
> >world, and for the first time in recorded history
> there will be
> >total peace.
> >
> >You cannot have peace where there is chaos and
> confusion, and this
> >is why our actions are designed to bring changes in
> a specific way
> >so as to avoid it. It has been a long time since
> you first reached
> >that point of conscious awareness that you had the
> power to bring
> >about changes yourself. You have realized that you
> are not simply
> >subject to the authority of those in power, that
> there is a higher
> >one to which you have your allegiance and no one
> can take that away
> >from you. Those in power have normally obtained
> their position
> >through your grace and should honor it by fully
> representing you. If
> >they do not honor and serve you, it is perfectly
> correct for you to
> >have them removed. Government is for the people,
> and not to provide
> >exalted positions for those in power so that they
> may use it against
> >you.
> >
> >We know what is required to bring in the changes
> that will see a
> >fair and just distribution of your wealth. We know
> that many
> >draconian laws need to be removed to restore your
> freedom and
> >sovereignty. All is in preparation and ready to be
> instigated, and
> >our strength and forces of good are primed and
> eager to bring you
> >the changes that are necessary. It might be
> unthinkable that anyone
> >would stand in the way of changes for the better,
> but those who are
> >very materialistic and self centered are reluctant
> to give up their
> >exalted positions. In a fair and just society there
> is no room for
> >the aggrandizement of the few who hold wealth way
> beyond their needs
> >at the expense of others. The distinctions that are
> made between
> >people that are based upon their wealth will
> disappear, and equality
> >and respect will be the order of the day.
> >
> >I am St. Germain and I want you to understand that
> your needs are
> >fully understood. The loose ends of Karma are being
> played out, and
> >it will not be long now before it will be the right
> time to bring
> >this period to a close. The change over to one of
> freedom from your
> >past will happen very quickly, and you will see the
> benefits quite
> >rapidly, and these will embrace the whole world.
> There will be a
> >wonderful coming together of all people, in a new
> found trust and
> >friendship, and you will truly become One. As
> always a great Love
> >and Light is with you, and you may draw upon it for
> your needs.
> >
> >/Thank you St. Germain/
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:46:16 -0000
From: TurquoiseB
Subject: Re: 'Coming Soon -" Revelations of 9/11"
--- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> St. Germain? I didn't know he was so interested in
> 9/11. Saints are so curious with or without bodies.
Dude gets around. Over here he's the leader of
a fairly happening techno/synth/jazz musical group:
http://www.bluenote.tm.fr/french/stgermain.html
You can listen to three songs in Realaudio if you
press the 'en écoute' button.
Unc
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:58:18 -0000
From: "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kill the Buddha...
--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is actually the basis of a famous koan posed
> by the 17th Karmapa. He posed the question to his
> students thusly, as recorded verbatim by one of the
> scribes in attendance: "When you meet the Buddha on
> the road, and fry him up and eat him, does the
> resulting Buddha-burger have Buddha-nature? Burp."
*lol* Yeah, didn't I tell you? I am the reincarnation of the 17th
Karmapa. Although, as anonymousff has astutely pointed out, in North-
western Tibet my title was pronounced the "17th Oneuppa."
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:01:17 -0000
From: "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The joys of unthreaded reading...
--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
> The bottom line for me is that real life isn't "threaded."
> You have to deal with things as they arise and organize them
> in your mind as best you can. For me, Fairfield Life is
> better appreciated the same way. Your mileage may vary.
Very nice!
-- another "unthreaded" enjoyer
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 07:28:48 -0500
From: Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:Re: Pundit News
If our great grandparents had spent half as much time sitting on their
rear ends as we do, we'd still be without electricity and running
water. And their shoes were undoubtedly a lot sturdier than the junk
some of us wear today.
Sal
On Jun 27, 2005, at 10:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> No, our great grandparents will tell us how they used to walk ten
> miles through the snow barefoot to do program and they were glad to do
> it!
>
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:46:07 -0000
From: "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 'Coming Soon -" Revelations of 9/11"
--- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> St. Germain? I didn't know he was so interested in
> 9/11. Saints are so curious with or without bodies.
Oh, yeah, didn't you know? St. Germain is a channelled Ascended
Master. That gives him the ability to assume the exact same interests,
biases, personality and consciousness as the person channelling him :-)
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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:00:55 -0000
From: TurquoiseB
Subject: Designer Genes: celibacy as a genetically dumb idea
> > ...our great grandparents will tell us how they used to
> > walk ten miles through the snow barefoot to do program
> > and they were glad to do it!
> If our great grandparents had spent half as much time
> sitting on their rear ends as we do, we'd still be without
> electricity and running water. And their shoes were
> undoubtedly a lot sturdier than the junk some of us
> wear today.
Ok, although it's not really related, except in my
odd mind, here's a topic that's led to fun discus-
sions on other spiritual forums.
When you look at spiritual traditions as a whole,
across the planet, isn't it fascinating how many of
them advocate celibacy for their clergy/leaders?
I mean, we're talking the Roman Catholic Church
and some other Western traditions, and many, many
Eastern traditions. And I'm sure we've all heard
the arguments for why celibacy is theoretically a
good deal for those seriously committed to a spirit-
ual path. The fun question that's come up on other
forums, however, has to do with how good this trend
is for future generations.
Think about this practice in terms of the gene pool.
In almost every culture that has spawned these trad-
itions of celibacy, the people who are expected to
become lifelong celibates are "the best and the
brightest." They often are among the few in any
given era who are drawn to spirituality strongly.
They often also have the best minds and the best
hearts of that era, in terms of how deeply they feel
about their fellow human beings and about being of
service to them.
Drawn by this desire to help others, and to help the
world, they gravitate to the priesthood, or take vows
as a monk. And what happens? The "best and brightest"
genes are effectively purged from the gene pool, and
never passed down to subsequent generations.
So what's up with that? It would seem to me that
logically nature would WANT these "best and brightest"
folks to pass along their intelligence and admirable
traits to future generations, rather than effectively
depriving future generations of the genes that support
that higher intelligence and more evolved traits.
Go figure, eh?
Unc
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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:11:32 -0400
From: Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:Designer Genes: celibacy as a genetically dumb idea
On Jun 28, 2005, at 9:00 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> So what's up with that? It would seem to me that
> logically nature would WANT these "best and brightest"
> folks to pass along their intelligence and admirable
> traits to future generations, rather than effectively
> depriving future generations of the genes that support
> that higher intelligence and more evolved traits.
>
> Go figure, eh?
I know a good number of teachers, indeed whole communities of
practitioners and realizers who marry. I've even seen genealogies which
talk of various families in the Himalayas whose gene-pool is influenced
by beings from other dimensions.
Not everything is as it seems. ;-)
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