Yeah, for my whole first year class only me and two others weren't allowed 
the sidhis course  and I knew it was gonna kill my relationship with my 
girlfriend right then and it did.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Duveyoung" <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To: <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:27 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Shudra shunning at MUM was my tipping point (Re: 
Vaj the honest and forthright)


> When I was poor and wanting to still be able to do program in the
> domes, I had to ask them to let me in for free or at least give me a
> discount on the dome fee.
>
> You'd think that the TMO was scoring a point for having a process for
> folks like me that involved getting some personal information and then
> deciding if the candidate warranted help.
>
> Seems straightforward and Christian of the TMO, eh?
>
> But here's how it worked out in real life:
>
> 1.  You stand in line forever to get to the person at the main table.
>
> 2.  You ask, softly and discreetly because you're embarrassed to have
> to ask, about the chance of getting a free badge.
>
> 3.  The person at the table speaks loudly:  "Oh, if you cannot afford
> the fee go to that table over there."
>
> 4.  Everyone in the room looks to see who's being sent to the shudra
> table.
>
> 5.  You go over to that table and they grill ya about if you've asked
> all your relatives etc. for help in paying the dome fee, whether you
> might be getting money in the future and would you then pay back the
> discounting's difference, whether you're active in the local center,
> etc.  Yes, that really is what they did to me.
>
> 6.  Anyone in the room could hear my conversation with the person at
> the shudra table.
>
> See why I stopped asking for help?
>
> In a cult where even an extra dollar a year income could notch you a
> step higher in the cult's esteem, I was unable to endure the misery of
> begging to be with God's Holy Crew.  Pride -- in this instance -- was
> my best friend, because, my pride wouldn't let me put myself in the
> power of these vicious bastards again.
>
> I think that being force to beg in public was my tipping point -- from
> that time onwards, my first interpretation of anything the TMO was
> doing was to think that some small minded unenlightened bureaucrat was
> plying a vile intent.
>
> Edg
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradh...@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>>
>> > Curtis wrote:
>> >> When India elects a Sudra as their leader they
>> >> can brag too.
>> >>
>> > There are no 'sudras', Curtis - you're just
>> > perpetuating the myth like you were trained to do.
>> > But in fact, almost all of India's leaders have
>> > been dark-skinned.
>>
>>
>> According to friends who worked on staff at MIU for very low wages,
>> and supposedly to get on course, i.e. pay for the TM-Sidhi course,
>> they were treated like shudras, like lesser-evolved people, who
>> shouldn't be touched or engaged. The idea, they felt, was that more
>> evolved people would naturally receive the "support of nature" and so
>> they were naturally more prosperous. If you lacked money to the
>> extent that you had to (essentially) beg to get on a course or be
>> able to hang at MIU/ meditate in the domes, you were in effect (not
>> only a slave of sorts), an untouchable. Or at least that's the way
>> they felt they were treated. It's an unspoken caste system in the
>> same sense that racism can be covert and engrained without
>> necessarily needing out loud racial slurs or comments.
>>
>> Perhaps we should start calling it the apaurusheya-jati?
>>
>
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